Wazzu just lost their HC

[coloradocat]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

Hasn't MSU been paying Cruzado a premium over the last handful of years to keep her? Now that she's retiring I would think the new president's pay package will be lower than what she was getting. Give the difference to Vigen!

[SparkCat]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

Absolutely, and I am sure some of that is happening. Obviously I’ll be happy for Vigen with whatever decision he makes, however, I can’t say I’ll be a little bitter. This would be a terrible year with a senior heavy class to lose a head coach. I definitely have a pessimistic point of view, but I’m sure we will lose a handful of great recruits and current guys on the roster, it could be disastrous, unless they hand the keys to someone like Daly, who is already on staff.

If I had extra income I’d definitely join the QB Club and help where I could, on the other hand, I’d rather save that money to attend a game or two as it’s not exactly cheap to even visit Bozeman anymore. It’s laughable with all the wealth in that valley and lack of support from that wealth.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

Absolutely, and I am sure some of that is happening. Obviously I’ll be happy for Vigen with whatever decision he makes, however, I can’t say I’ll be a little bitter. This would be a terrible year with a senior heavy class to lose a head coach. I definitely have a pessimistic point of view, but I’m sure we will lose a handful of great recruits and current guys on the roster, it could be disastrous, unless they hand the keys to someone like Daly, who is already on staff.

If I had extra income I’d definitely join the QB Club and help where I could, on the other hand, I’d rather save that money to attend a game or two as it’s not exactly cheap to even visit Bozeman anymore. It’s laughable with all the wealth in that valley and lack of support from that wealth.

It’s kind of laughable to think that the wealthy should support a football team they likely have no connection to and don’t care about.

[catatac]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

I don't think that's how it works, i.e. it's not like Lean can just pay whatever he wants. If that were the case, Leon would just say, great year, Million Dollar raise if you stay another year.

[tetoncat]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

Absolutely, and I am sure some of that is happening. Obviously I’ll be happy for Vigen with whatever decision he makes, however, I can’t say I’ll be a little bitter. This would be a terrible year with a senior heavy class to lose a head coach. I definitely have a pessimistic point of view, but I’m sure we will lose a handful of great recruits and current guys on the roster, it could be disastrous, unless they hand the keys to someone like Daly, who is already on staff.

If I had extra income I’d definitely join the QB Club and help where I could, on the other hand, I’d rather save that money to attend a game or two as it’s not exactly cheap to even visit Bozeman anymore. It’s laughable with all the wealth in that valley and lack of support from that wealth.

It’s kind of laughable to think that the wealthy should support a football team they likely have no connection to and don’t care about.

Also laughable to think there isn't support. New BAC, Indoor, coach could make 600k with bonuses, (this isn't directed at you belligerent)

[RickRund]

And where are all the stories of big time programs beating down the doors to offer booby massive contracts?

[SparkCat]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

Absolutely, and I am sure some of that is happening. Obviously I’ll be happy for Vigen with whatever decision he makes, however, I can’t say I’ll be a little bitter. This would be a terrible year with a senior heavy class to lose a head coach. I definitely have a pessimistic point of view, but I’m sure we will lose a handful of great recruits and current guys on the roster, it could be disastrous, unless they hand the keys to someone like Daly, who is already on staff.

If I had extra income I’d definitely join the QB Club and help where I could, on the other hand, I’d rather save that money to attend a game or two as it’s not exactly cheap to even visit Bozeman anymore. It’s laughable with all the wealth in that valley and lack of support from that wealth.

It’s kind of laughable to think that the wealthy should support a football team they likely have no connection to and don’t care about.

Also laughable to think there isn't support. New BAC, Indoor, coach could make 600k with bonuses, (this isn't directed at you belligerent)

All valid points. I’m just tired, bitter and sick during the holidays. A true bundle of joy.

[Cats15]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

I don't think that's how it works, i.e. it's not like Lean can just pay whatever he wants. If that were the case, Leon would just say, great year, Million Dollar raise if you stay another year.

You don’t think that is how negotiations work?? If I was doing the same job as someone else, they are making more then I am, I have done a better job then they have, and I have offers to go somewhere else to make more money, I absolutely would be renegotiating. On the other side (MSU) if the other university in the state, under the same governance, is able to pay an employee with the same job title a certain salary then MSU better be able to match it.

[AFCAT]

Vigen and his staff negotiating with Leon right now.

[utucats]

Let’s just win the Natty and then whatever. Vigen deserves the opportunity and I’ll leave it to him to decide if it’s a worthwhile one. He could have been the head coach at NDSU but held out for a better job at THE MONTANA STATE UNIVERSITY. Wouldn’t be the first time that he was patient enough to improve his situation.

You’re an idiot. Let him decide…..we the fans make this decision. People are going to read this and think I am being serious. You know I love you man!! Hope we can dance on the 50 yard line together in Frisco!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

Merry Xmas to you GC18! Unfortunately I can’t go. I have to watch from home but have a little extra fun for me.

It’s finally the year!

[catatac]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

I don't think that's how it works, i.e. it's not like Lean can just pay whatever he wants. If that were the case, Leon would just say, great year, Million Dollar raise if you stay another year.

You don’t think that is how negotiations work?? If I was doing the same job as someone else, they are making more then I am, I have done a better job then they have, and I have offers to go somewhere else to make more money, I absolutely would be renegotiating. On the other side (MSU) if the other university in the state, under the same governance, is able to pay an employee with the same job title a certain salary then MSU better be able to match it.

Oh absolutely there can be negotiations. My point was that Leon doesn't have the final say in how much we can pay Vigen, unfortunately.

[PHAT CAT]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

Absolutely, and I am sure some of that is happening. Obviously I’ll be happy for Vigen with whatever decision he makes, however, I can’t say I’ll be a little bitter. This would be a terrible year with a senior heavy class to lose a head coach. I definitely have a pessimistic point of view, but I’m sure we will lose a handful of great recruits and current guys on the roster, it could be disastrous, unless they hand the keys to someone like Daly, who is already on staff.

If I had extra income I’d definitely join the QB Club and help where I could, on the other hand, I’d rather save that money to attend a game or two as it’s not exactly cheap to even visit Bozeman anymore. It’s laughable with all the wealth in that valley and lack of support from that wealth.

It’s kind of laughable to think that the wealthy should support a football team they likely have no connection to and don’t care about.

Also laughable to think there isn't support. New BAC, Indoor, coach could make 600k with bonuses, (this isn't directed at you belligerent)

All valid points. I’m just tired, bitter and sick during the holidays. A true bundle of joy.

Merry Christmas. I hope you get to feeling better.

[cat22[2010]]

All I want for Xmas is Vigen to stick around and a natty! Is that too much to ask?

[MTmadeCat]

Should Vigen stay, a good pay raise and increased incentives for him and staff is certainly necessary and likely, in my opinion. If he leaves, I believe Leon should waste no time and promote Daly to HC to keep as much momentum and continuity as possible. Seems like he would be ready for that roll, and would likely limit as much staff and player turnover as would be possible in this day and age of college football. If Vigen leaves, hopefully he does so with a national championship win. Go cats!

[BFcatfan]

I see where Bobby signed a new contract over the hill. I believe his new salary is above Vigens. Maybe Brent is using that, plus the interest from other schools to renegotiate his contract with Leon. Wouldn’t it make since that Vigens should be at least on par with Bobby’s?

I don't think that's how it works, i.e. it's not like Lean can just pay whatever he wants. If that were the case, Leon would just say, great year, Million Dollar raise if you stay another year.

You don’t think that is how negotiations work?? If I was doing the same job as someone else, they are making more then I am, I have done a better job then they have, and I have offers to go somewhere else to make more money, I absolutely would be renegotiating. On the other side (MSU) if the other university in the state, under the same governance, is able to pay an employee with the same job title a certain salary then MSU better be able to match it.

I may be ignorant or maybe behind in the times but the last I knew the head coaches from both schools were paid the act same BASE salary set up by the Board of Regents.. anything above that came from bonuses paid by the university for what ever reason, making the playoffs, making the finals etc. etc. Some can also come from or clubs like QB club etc. Let me know if I’m wrong.. I’m sure you will..LOL So what I’m saying if I’m right is the negotiating would be over bonuses, perks etc.

[BFcatfan]

I don’t think he takes the job. Sounds more like a rebuild - a Choate special.

I truly don’t believe he was offered the job. Reddit is not credible in my opinion. Maybe it’s my intuition or gut feeling or listening to Coach over the last year and then the interview his wife gave in the last week, but I don’t see him chasing dollars THIS YEAR. They love Bozeman and they way we support the University and the team. So fingers crossed.

[Common Cat]

I don’t think he takes the job. Sounds more like a rebuild - a Choate special.

I truly don’t believe he was offered the job. Reddit is not credible in my opinion. Maybe it’s my intuition or gut feeling or listening to Coach over the last year and then the interview his wife gave in the last week, but I don’t see him chasing dollars THIS YEAR. They love Bozeman and they way we support the University and the team. So fingers crossed.

If he left he leaves a position where he is beloved.
He leaves a wonderful community and a university and athletic department on a meteoric path. How much is that worth to a man? The Vigen’s have multifaceted agency in Bozeman. What is the net profit of taking the Wazzu?

[BelligerentBobcat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

[Common Cat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Strike when the iron is hot is correct. Wouldn’t want him to end up in a Travis Decuire situation.

[mslacatfan]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.