Wazzu just lost their HC

[GoldstoneCat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.

Yeah I think it's a top 5 team coming back and maybe better depending on QB.

[MSU01]

A lot of teams will lose a lot of talent to graduation this season since there are basically two senior classes (the 2020 freshmen, 2021 freshmen, and even 2019 freshmen who redshirted) using their last season of eligibility this year. MSU will be right up there again next season, at this point it's basically the Montana schools and the Dakota schools at the top and then an increasingly widening gap to everyone else.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.

For sure still a top FCS program. But not undefeated and likely not a true championship contender.

[CodyCat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Agreed. Will be favored to win The Big Sky and no reason they won’t have a chance to repeat. That is of course if Vigen doesn’t leave and things stay relatively intact.
Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.

[JoeCatsJoe]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.

Yeah I think it's a top 5 team coming back and maybe better depending on QB.

This all depends on Vigen and if he leaves, and how many players he takes with him if he goes.

[tetoncat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.

For sure still a top FCS program. But not undefeated and likely not a true championship contender.

Who will be then. NDSU, SDSU also lose 4 year starters. Cats showed they can win with Tommy not running. WR, RB, should be strong. OL depends on if any leave. DL strong, DB good, LB need to find the guy.

[GoldstoneCat]

Vigen also isn’t a spring chicken and there certainly will be a drop off with the team next year. So is it better to strike while the iron is hot, or wait it out for a better job that may or may not come?

It’s a tough choice. I’d love for him to stay, but it’s pretty tough to pass up possibly tripling your salary with a lower cost of living.

Not sure I’m buying the “big drop off next year”…

Yeah, we have some big names graduating, but there is also a ton of big names returning. The last 4 years recruiting classes have been absolutely loaded, the cats are super deep. This team is not going anywhere and will continue to be one of the top FCS programs.

For sure still a top FCS program. But not undefeated and likely not a true championship contender.

Who will be then. NDSU, SDSU also lose 4 year starters. Cats showed they can win with Tommy not running. WR, RB, should be strong. OL depends on if any leave. DL strong, DB good, LB need to find the guy.

We're as much of a contender as any. Even if/when Connor Moore leaves. Will depend on who gets qb right among the top outfits.

[GoCats18]

Can they just make an announcement already and have it not be Vigen….

[RyeCat]

Can they just make an announcement already and have it not be Vigen….

Every day they don’t make an announcement, makes me think it’s Vigen even though I wonder who would take on that dumpster fire program. The pay increase is nice but there are so many problems. I have to think there would be other better FBS opportunities.

[catsrback76]

Can they just make an announcement already and have it not be Vigen….

Every day they don’t make an announcement, makes me think it’s Vigen even though I wonder who would take on that dumpster fire program. The pay increase is nice but there are so many problems. I have to think there would be other better FBS opportunities.

I would say one of the things in favor of Vigen leaving for Wazzu is its proximity to the PAC NW and Bozeman. Maybe Grant transfers, maybe not, but having easy access to Bozeman for reasons of legacy and family, and yet stepping up to the FBS now with a chance to build…for 1.5 million…okay, I get it. Makes some sense!

[Dbrewmsu]

Lots of rumors floating around today about Wazzu waiting to announce their coach in January, and that it’s very likely Vigen will be taking that job.

Brint Whalberg and Shaun Rainey re-tweeting a tweet from a known troll account. Wouldn’t take much from it…plus why would they meet in Vegas to discuss an offer?

Never even saw their re-tweets. Yea, that account is an absolute joke and it’s I’m surprised Brint fell for that one, Shaun doesn’t surprise me though

I double checked and they both reposted the one from the same account. There’s also a thread on Reddit,some guy started saying he was talking to Bobcat players at the airport and they told him Vigen was taking the job. Seems suspect to me.

What were Bobcats players doing at the airport? Did we have a road game I am not aware of?

Rohan was on a plane yesterday, based off his instagram story

Great, now the FBS is poaching our players to be head coaches.

[Augustus]

There are many things far more important than money. Hopefully Vigen understands this and decides to stick around.

[Long Time Cat]

There are many things far more important than money. Hopefully Vigen understands this and decides to stick around.

“…but it can buy me a boat and a truck to pull it.”



Thought this thread could use a little levity.

[technoCat]

So out of curiosity, I keep seeing people saying to put Daly in as HC if Vigen leaves, do people really think he is ready or is that just wishful thinking? 1 year as a DC doesn't seem to me to automatically mean he is ready to lead a program even if it would be nice to have the continuity. I also imagine more of the staff would want to go with Vigen and get a pay bump than stay here with the new guy.

[superbobcat]

He is ready. It is the NDSU model for success. I would hate to see an overhaul of the staff.

[Cledus]

He is ready. It is the NDSU model for success. I would hate to see an overhaul of the staff.

I could see Udy stepping into the OC role. After all, it's the position he was hired for after Matt Miller left for Boise. He was already a run-first guy and now he's had a few years to matriculate.

[MSU01]

There are many things far more important than money. Hopefully Vigen understands this and decides to stick around.

Awfully easy for us to say when we wouldn't be the ones getting the huge pay raise.

[SparkCat]

He is ready. It is the NDSU model for success. I would hate to see an overhaul of the staff.

I could see Udy stepping into the OC role. After all, it's the position he was hired for after Matt Miller left for Boise. He was already a run-first guy and now he's had a few years to matriculate.

I didn’t know he was a run first dude. Guess that’s what I get for assuming he was a Texas Tech Air Raid guy.

[lakesbison]

He is ready. It is the NDSU model for success. I would hate to see an overhaul of the staff.

the NDSU coaching Tree is crazy good right now:

K State
Northwestern
Fresno State
Wyoming (still)
Kent State
Iowa State
Montana St/Wazzo
Wake Forest (Dickert)
Colorado State (Banks but just let go )

Bradley Colts DC
Wash Car DL
Cain Den DL

[CodyCat]

So out of curiosity, I keep seeing people saying to put Daly in as HC if Vigen leaves, do people really think he is ready or is that just wishful thinking? 1 year as a DC doesn't seem to me to automatically mean he is ready to lead a program even if it would be nice to have the continuity. I also imagine more of the staff would want to go with Vigen and get a pay bump than stay here with the new guy.

I agree. I’d be shocked if Daly was ready to be a HC. I trust Leon if MSU is looking for a new coach.