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Re: Next HC

Post by aucat » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm

I can't imagine a worse job than Washington State given the situation that they are in. It would be extremely difficult to have a winning program there. MIght make more money but lots of misery I'm afraid.



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Re: Next HC

Post by Cats and Dogs » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:45 pm

GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:04 pm
Nick Saban
Flight tracker showing a private jet today from Tuscaloosa to Bozeman! Hope he can recruit!



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Re: Next HC

Post by RyeCat » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:50 pm

Cats and Dogs wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:45 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:04 pm
Nick Saban
Flight tracker showing a private jet today from Tuscaloosa to Bozeman! Hope he can recruit!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Next HC

Post by GoCats18 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:03 pm

Cats and Dogs wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:45 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:04 pm
Nick Saban
Flight tracker showing a private jet today from Tuscaloosa to Bozeman! Hope he can recruit!
Glad I wasn’t the only one that saw that on the flight tracker today. :wink:


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Re: Next HC

Post by 84CatGrad » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:44 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:50 pm
Cats and Dogs wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:45 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:04 pm
Nick Saban
Flight tracker showing a private jet today from Tuscaloosa to Bozeman! Hope he can recruit!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Next HC

Post by Catsrgrood » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:51 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:50 pm
Cats and Dogs wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:45 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:04 pm
Nick Saban
Flight tracker showing a private jet today from Tuscaloosa to Bozeman! Hope he can recruit!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Next HC

Post by Cledus » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:56 pm

aucat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm
I can't imagine a worse job than Washington State given the situation that they are in. It would be extremely difficult to have a winning program there. MIght make more money but lots of misery I'm afraid.
I'm about 35% under market. There are qualitative factors and intangibles where I work now that keep me from looking for more money elsewhere. I know I could easily get a higher paying job somewhere else, but I'd kick myself going to someplace new that ended up being a sh**ty work culture, having no friends, and having to prove myself all over again. I'd feel the pay bump wouldn't have been worth what I left. For enough money, I'd suck it up. But it would have to be comfortably in the upper end of the range.

So, if Vigen was in my shoes the $665k he is poised to earn this year is 65% of $1.023 million. If he's looking at it like me, that $1.023 million is getting close to the tipping point where even if it was a dogsh** job the money would be worth it. And that's still assuming WSU doesn't go tits up, which at this point looks like it could happen.


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Re: Next HC

Post by catatac » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:19 pm

Cledus wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:56 pm
aucat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm
I can't imagine a worse job than Washington State given the situation that they are in. It would be extremely difficult to have a winning program there. MIght make more money but lots of misery I'm afraid.
I'm about 35% under market. There are qualitative factors and intangibles where I work now that keep me from looking for more money elsewhere. I know I could easily get a higher paying job somewhere else, but I'd kick myself going to someplace new that ended up being a sh**ty work culture, having no friends, and having to prove myself all over again. I'd feel the pay bump wouldn't have been worth what I left. For enough money, I'd suck it up. But it would have to be comfortably in the upper end of the range.

So, if Vigen was in my shoes the $665k he is poised to earn this year is 65% of $1.023 million. If he's looking at it like me, that $1.023 million is getting close to the tipping point where even if it was a dogsh** job the money would be worth it. And that's still assuming WSU doesn't go tits up, which at this point looks like it could happen.
I thought the WSU job was North of that with incentives but I could be wrong.


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Re: Next HC

Post by MSU01 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:35 pm

catatac wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:19 pm
Cledus wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:56 pm
aucat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm
I can't imagine a worse job than Washington State given the situation that they are in. It would be extremely difficult to have a winning program there. MIght make more money but lots of misery I'm afraid.
I'm about 35% under market. There are qualitative factors and intangibles where I work now that keep me from looking for more money elsewhere. I know I could easily get a higher paying job somewhere else, but I'd kick myself going to someplace new that ended up being a sh**ty work culture, having no friends, and having to prove myself all over again. I'd feel the pay bump wouldn't have been worth what I left. For enough money, I'd suck it up. But it would have to be comfortably in the upper end of the range.

So, if Vigen was in my shoes the $665k he is poised to earn this year is 65% of $1.023 million. If he's looking at it like me, that $1.023 million is getting close to the tipping point where even if it was a dogsh** job the money would be worth it. And that's still assuming WSU doesn't go tits up, which at this point looks like it could happen.
I thought the WSU job was North of that with incentives but I could be wrong.
Way, way north of that. Dickert made $2.5 million this past season.



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Re: Next HC

Post by Montanabob » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:50 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:35 pm
catatac wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:19 pm
Cledus wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:56 pm
aucat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm
I can't imagine a worse job than Washington State given the situation that they are in. It would be extremely difficult to have a winning program there. MIght make more money but lots of misery I'm afraid.
I'm about 35% under market. There are qualitative factors and intangibles where I work now that keep me from looking for more money elsewhere. I know I could easily get a higher paying job somewhere else, but I'd kick myself going to someplace new that ended up being a sh**ty work culture, having no friends, and having to prove myself all over again. I'd feel the pay bump wouldn't have been worth what I left. For enough money, I'd suck it up. But it would have to be comfortably in the upper end of the range.

So, if Vigen was in my shoes the $665k he is poised to earn this year is 65% of $1.023 million. If he's looking at it like me, that $1.023 million is getting close to the tipping point where even if it was a dogsh** job the money would be worth it. And that's still assuming WSU doesn't go tits up, which at this point looks like it could happen.
I thought the WSU job was North of that with incentives but I could be wrong.
Way, way north of that. Dickert made $2.5 million this past season.
WSU has already came out and said they cant afford to pay that much. looking to be closer to $1m + incentives to $1.5


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Re: Next HC

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:51 pm

I think Daly is the best candidate.

Bringing in an outside hire is tough, because you want continuity. I realize that Vigen was an outside hire, but we want to continue what he’s built here, and Daly offers the best mix of understanding MSU and Vigen’s system. He’s the only one who has seen it all. I’d much prefer him over Ioane. Only other coach on the current staff I would consider is Al Johnson.

Also, if Daly doesn’t get the job, what’s his incentive to stay here? Unless he really doesn’t want to be a HC, he’s the best candidate.



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Re: Next HC

Post by PapaG » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:57 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:50 pm
WSU has already came out and said they cant afford to pay that much. looking to be closer to $1m + incentives to $1.5
I can’t find any evidence of this being true.


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Re: Next HC

Post by Cledus » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:03 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:51 pm
I think Daly is the best candidate.

Bringing in an outside hire is tough, because you want continuity. I realize that Vigen was an outside hire, but we want to continue what he’s built here, and Daly offers the best mix of understanding MSU and Vigen’s system. He’s the only one who has seen it all. I’d much prefer him over Ioane. Only other coach on the current staff I would consider is Al Johnson.

Also, if Daly doesn’t get the job, what’s his incentive to stay here? Unless he really doesn’t want to be a HC, he’s the best candidate.
There’s been quite a noticeable improvement on the defensive side of the ball this year, and I would think with a second year it would get even better.


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Re: Next HC

Post by GoldstoneCat » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:03 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:51 pm
I think Daly is the best candidate.

Bringing in an outside hire is tough, because you want continuity. I realize that Vigen was an outside hire, but we want to continue what he’s built here, and Daly offers the best mix of understanding MSU and Vigen’s system. He’s the only one who has seen it all. I’d much prefer him over Ioane. Only other coach on the current staff I would consider is Al Johnson.

Also, if Daly doesn’t get the job, what’s his incentive to stay here? Unless he really doesn’t want to be a HC, he’s the best candidate.
Yep those are the 2 guys, I think. Hoping this convo can be tabled until next winter but nice to know there are a couple guys on staff that could potentially step up.



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Re: Next HC

Post by Montanabob » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:06 pm

PapaG wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:57 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:50 pm
WSU has already came out and said they cant afford to pay that much. looking to be closer to $1m + incentives to $1.5
I can’t find any evidence of this being true.
their was a 10% cut in May. I will find the post on salary reduction for new coach.
from spokesman last week:
The football program’s budget has been trimmed recently. Coaches took pay cuts. More cuts were on the way for 2025 – cuts that will also occur on other parts of campus

and look what the did to basketball
https://247sports.com/college/washingto ... 233627650/


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Re: Next HC

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:24 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:03 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:51 pm
I think Daly is the best candidate.

Bringing in an outside hire is tough, because you want continuity. I realize that Vigen was an outside hire, but we want to continue what he’s built here, and Daly offers the best mix of understanding MSU and Vigen’s system. He’s the only one who has seen it all. I’d much prefer him over Ioane. Only other coach on the current staff I would consider is Al Johnson.

Also, if Daly doesn’t get the job, what’s his incentive to stay here? Unless he really doesn’t want to be a HC, he’s the best candidate.
Yep those are the 2 guys, I think. Hoping this convo can be tabled until next winter but nice to know there are a couple guys on staff that could potentially step up.
Whether it happens this year or next, it’s going to happen at some point.



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Re: Next HC

Post by 94VegasCat » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:35 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:24 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:03 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:51 pm
I think Daly is the best candidate.

Bringing in an outside hire is tough, because you want continuity. I realize that Vigen was an outside hire, but we want to continue what he’s built here, and Daly offers the best mix of understanding MSU and Vigen’s system. He’s the only one who has seen it all. I’d much prefer him over Ioane. Only other coach on the current staff I would consider is Al Johnson.

Also, if Daly doesn’t get the job, what’s his incentive to stay here? Unless he really doesn’t want to be a HC, he’s the best candidate.
Yep those are the 2 guys, I think. Hoping this convo can be tabled until next winter but nice to know there are a couple guys on staff that could potentially step up.
Whether it happens this year or next, it’s going to happen at some point.
Agreed. I just don’t want the kids to bag it mentally cuz the coach bails. This entire situation is enough to piss off a good humored man.


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Re: Next HC

Post by BFcatfan » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:45 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:32 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:20 pm
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Well I guess it not officially confirmed but I trust Tom. Who do we think is next?
Vigen is gone? Where did you see this?
People are speculating. TomCat made a comment that Vigen is taking the WSU job, but almost immediately walked that back.
For Fu** sakes people chill the hell out. I’ll eat crow if need be… I do not see Vigen leaving this year…I’ve listened to him and his wife talk more than once….Im just reading them the opposite. Some dip sh** Gris fan posted that on Reddit.. it’s comparable to the National Enquirer in my opinion


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Re: Next HC

Post by BFcatfan » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:48 pm

94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:35 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:24 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:03 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:51 pm
I think Daly is the best candidate.

Bringing in an outside hire is tough, because you want continuity. I realize that Vigen was an outside hire, but we want to continue what he’s built here, and Daly offers the best mix of understanding MSU and Vigen’s system. He’s the only one who has seen it all. I’d much prefer him over Ioane. Only other coach on the current staff I would consider is Al Johnson.

Also, if Daly doesn’t get the job, what’s his incentive to stay here? Unless he really doesn’t want to be a HC, he’s the best candidate.
Yep those are the 2 guys, I think. Hoping this convo can be tabled until next winter but nice to know there are a couple guys on staff that could potentially step up.
Whether it happens this year or next, it’s going to happen at some point.
Agreed. I just don’t want the kids to bag it mentally cuz the coach bails. This entire situation is enough to piss off a good humored man.
Why do you think some tool posted that in the first place…. For the reason you stated. If we quit talking about it, it will quite down.


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Re: Next HC

Post by cat22[2010] » Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:58 pm

Vigen ain't even gone and you guys have him wrote off already...


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