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I think SDSU will be right back into the top tier. They are so damn successful in almost all their other sports. They will make a good hire and get right back to top tier. I mean, who in the heck is waiting in the wings to be elite? Maybe USD. But we’ll see if that was a one hit wonder.
I can see them getting back into top tier, but they’re almost guaranteed to lose a lot of players now. Next season could be rough
I agree. Think it was coming regardless. This is Jimmy Rogers taking the best shot he was ever going to get.
Why do you think that?
Stig built that thing for 20 years. Rogers won a title with essentially all Stig's team. The remnants of that team (Gronowski, bock, some of the linemen) carried this year's team. But they lost to NDSU twice and have been caught by SD. They have some decent facilities. Fans showed for the regular season but not the playoffs. Still a good job but I think they're at least 3rd wheel in the valley now for awhile, and it can be hard to climb back once you're there and fall off. Ask hauck.
Rogers recruited a lot of that team too.
Yeah, I think its a bit of a stretch to pretend that Rogers didn't have a lot to do with that team...I mean, he's been at SDSU (except one year) since he graduated from high school 20 years ago.
I agree. Think it was coming regardless. This is Jimmy Rogers taking the best shot he was ever going to get.
Why do you think that?
Stig built that thing for 20 years. Rogers won a title with essentially all Stig's team. The remnants of that team (Gronowski, bock, some of the linemen) carried this year's team. But they lost to NDSU twice and have been caught by SD. They have some decent facilities. Fans showed for the regular season but not the playoffs. Still a good job but I think they're at least 3rd wheel in the valley now for awhile, and it can be hard to climb back once you're there and fall off. Ask hauck.
Rogers recruited a lot of that team too.
Yeah, I think its a bit of a stretch to pretend that Rogers didn't have a lot to do with that team...I mean, he's been at SDSU (except one year) since he graduated from high school 20 years ago.
Hes a lot like Kane Ione or Bobby Daly IMO.
Time will tell. I don't agree. I mean he's a pedigree guy there, agree with that. But I'm not buying him as a big time coach. Just not.
I agree. Think it was coming regardless. This is Jimmy Rogers taking the best shot he was ever going to get.
Why do you think that?
Stig built that thing for 20 years. Rogers won a title with essentially all Stig's team. The remnants of that team (Gronowski, bock, some of the linemen) carried this year's team. But they lost to NDSU twice and have been caught by SD. They have some decent facilities. Fans showed for the regular season but not the playoffs. Still a good job but I think they're at least 3rd wheel in the valley now for awhile, and it can be hard to climb back once you're there and fall off. Ask hauck.
Rogers recruited a lot of that team too.
Yeah, I think its a bit of a stretch to pretend that Rogers didn't have a lot to do with that team...I mean, he's been at SDSU (except one year) since he graduated from high school 20 years ago.
Hes a lot like Kane Ione or Bobby Daly IMO.
Time will tell. I don't agree. I mean he's a pedigree guy there, agree with that. But I'm not buying him as a big time coach. Just not.
I think he’s a good match for the state of the Wazzu program. He’s got enough swagger and bravado to think he can deal with all of the obstacles and come out with a winning combination. If you’ve watched any of his interviews, he does not lack in confidence. Hopefully, it’s enough because I think he’s got a big job ahead of him. This is a total overhaul versus being handed a national championship caliber team.
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
Shouldn’t you be tannin hides and drying bison for winter. Go home
With success comes attention, with attention comes cockiness, with cockiness comes arrogance, with arrogance comes rudeness...and they wonder why I hate the Griz ! FTG
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
This. Every year Vigen sticks around is another year the foundation builds and handles his loss better
I agree. Think it was coming regardless. This is Jimmy Rogers taking the best shot he was ever going to get.
Why do you think that?
Stig built that thing for 20 years. Rogers won a title with essentially all Stig's team. The remnants of that team (Gronowski, bock, some of the linemen) carried this year's team. But they lost to NDSU twice and have been caught by SD. They have some decent facilities. Fans showed for the regular season but not the playoffs. Still a good job but I think they're at least 3rd wheel in the valley now for awhile, and it can be hard to climb back once you're there and fall off. Ask hauck.
Rogers recruited a lot of that team too.
Yeah, I think its a bit of a stretch to pretend that Rogers didn't have a lot to do with that team...I mean, he's been at SDSU (except one year) since he graduated from high school 20 years ago.
Hes a lot like Kane Ione or Bobby Daly IMO.
Time will tell. I don't agree. I mean he's a pedigree guy there, agree with that. But I'm not buying him as a big time coach. Just not.
I'm not really saying hes a big time coach...maybe the kind of coach that can get a job at a mid-tier G6 school? I think Vigen has a vastly better resume, which is why I've been arguing that Vigen can afford to hold out for a better job.
I agree. Think it was coming regardless. This is Jimmy Rogers taking the best shot he was ever going to get.
Why do you think that?
Stig built that thing for 20 years. Rogers won a title with essentially all Stig's team. The remnants of that team (Gronowski, bock, some of the linemen) carried this year's team. But they lost to NDSU twice and have been caught by SD. They have some decent facilities. Fans showed for the regular season but not the playoffs. Still a good job but I think they're at least 3rd wheel in the valley now for awhile, and it can be hard to climb back once you're there and fall off. Ask hauck.
Rogers recruited a lot of that team too.
Yeah, I think its a bit of a stretch to pretend that Rogers didn't have a lot to do with that team...I mean, he's been at SDSU (except one year) since he graduated from high school 20 years ago.
Hes a lot like Kane Ione or Bobby Daly IMO.
Time will tell. I don't agree. I mean he's a pedigree guy there, agree with that. But I'm not buying him as a big time coach. Just not.
I'm not really saying hes a big time coach...maybe the kind of coach that can get a job at a mid-tier G6 school? I think Vigen has a vastly better resume, which is why I've been arguing that Vigen can afford to hold out for a better job.
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
This. Every year Vigen sticks around is another year the foundation builds and handles his loss better
Don't wanna jinx anything but - just because Vigen didn't goto wazzu doesn't mean he'll be in Bozeman next fall. We dodged 1 bullet, there will likely be a few others this winter.
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
This. Every year Vigen sticks around is another year the foundation builds and handles his loss better
Don't wanna jinx anything but - just because Vigen didn't goto wazzu doesn't mean he'll be in Bozeman next fall. We dodged 1 bullet, there will likely be a few others this winter.
Potentially so, although it seems unlikely that there will be much more movement in terms of head coaching jobs coming available. Would Vigen have interest in leaving for a P4 assistant job like Choate did? Maybe, maybe not. Turns out that in the Transfer Portal era, the best way to retain your coach is to keep playing into January and take advantage of the sense of urgency these schools have to get coaches in place ASAP.
Anyway, this Bobcat fan is going to move on for the time being and focus on the upcoming football game for the next 8 days.
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
This. Every year Vigen sticks around is another year the foundation builds and handles his loss better
Don't wanna jinx anything but - just because Vigen didn't goto wazzu doesn't mean he'll be in Bozeman next fall. We dodged 1 bullet, there will likely be a few others this winter.
Could be. Less likely every week. The most likely scenario is prime goes to the league and Vigen is either a candidate there (unlikely) or gets swept up in the domino effect. Same goes for other nfl jumps creating a domino effect (lanning? Freeman?), but other than that or another unforseen retirement, we're almost thru the hiring cycle.
I think he's a lot like Bobbi Hauck. Reasonably successful at this level with a program that was not built by him and thinking he can "move up" and be successful on his own. I'll give him a couple years and he'll be back down to FCS ball. Just like Bobbi.
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
This. Every year Vigen sticks around is another year the foundation builds and handles his loss better
Don't wanna jinx anything but - just because Vigen didn't goto wazzu doesn't mean he'll be in Bozeman next fall. We dodged 1 bullet, there will likely be a few others this winter.
Could be. Less likely every week. The most likely scenario is prime goes to the league and Vigen is either a candidate there (unlikely) or gets swept up in the domino effect. Same goes for other nfl jumps creating a domino effect (lanning? Freeman?), but other than that or another unforseen retirement, we're almost thru the hiring cycle.
After last night’s debacle against BYU, Deion should be happy to still be in Boulder. He’s losing two first round players and next year will be his real test as a head coach.
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings
Just know that there is a very good chance we will be doing this same stuff next year. You have to figure if the right job is out there, he is going to take it. Unless MSU can find a way to pay him and the entire coaching staff more. Now, let’s go win a F******* National Championship!!! GO CATS
Yep every year until he leaves. But every year he stays makes it more likely we can promote Bobby from within and keep it rolling.
This. Every year Vigen sticks around is another year the foundation builds and handles his loss better
Don't wanna jinx anything but - just because Vigen didn't goto wazzu doesn't mean he'll be in Bozeman next fall. We dodged 1 bullet, there will likely be a few others this winter.
Potentially so, although it seems unlikely that there will be much more movement in terms of head coaching jobs coming available. Would Vigen have interest in leaving for a P4 assistant job like Choate did? Maybe, maybe not. Turns out that in the Transfer Portal era, the best way to retain your coach is to keep playing into January and take advantage of the sense of urgency these schools have to get coaches in place ASAP.
Anyway, this Bobcat fan is going to move on for the time being and focus on the upcoming football game for the next 8 days.
Sadly, for MSU coaches it’s outside income that needs to be elevated to keep coaches in Bozeman. Bobby makes more than Vigen, which is not great considering the only reason Hauck isn’t on the hot seat is Junior Bergen. Hauck completely under-utilized #5 this year and thought 33 year-old Ostmo was their guy instead of Gillman.
Seattle to Billings to Missoula to Bozeman to Portland to Billings