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[CalgaryCat]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

[Monymony]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Thanks for the info. Figured there had to be a bigger reason.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

[Prodigal Cat]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Oh I agree with you. But to quit mid game is extremely character revealing.

[Monymony]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

Fair but come on man, he is about to made a stupid amount of money. Why risk the injury if there is no point. Tons of guys opt out but Cam wanted to get the record.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

[CalgaryCat]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

I’m biased because I think a championship at any level is a big deal. But if a game isn’t moving you towards that, I can see why a player puts their future in the forefront

[onceacat]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

Fair but come on man, he is about to made a stupid amount of money. Why risk the injury if there is no point. Tons of guys opt out but Cam wanted to get the record.

Colorado has two top 5 picks on their roster who played tonight. Colorado ALSO took out a disability insurance policy on all their players in case one had a career damaging injury in the Whatever Bowl. Miami could have done the same thing.

Its a little disingenuous to call out a 22 year old kid on the cusp of a $10m/year payday to risk that career on a meaningless bowl game.

You want guys to opt in? Insure them against a career ending injury, then write it into their scholarships. Pretty easy stuff.

Problem is that for most schools (and, lets be honest, most fans) its a one sided deal.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

I KNOW the kid and the family. I'm from their area. This kid didn't quit. He is far from me first. Nobody had EVER said that about him..... EVER. He had ONE offer coming out of college, played his butt off and had an opportunity to better himself and position himself to chase his dreams. So your son is vastly under recruited coming out of high school but you KNOW he has big time talent. So he goes to the ONLY school that would offer him... balls out and shows his ability. Now your son can go to the p4 level and get seen by nfl scouts against the best in the nation. So much so that he breaks the single season record in passing yds and tds for a historic program and positions himself to possibly be the FIRST qb taken the nfln draft securing 100mil dollars.... you're telling me your telling your kid to make this moves? You people kill me with the kid "putting himself up for bid", he played well and found situations that would allow him to legitimately chase his dreams.

Please make sure that you never leave your job when you prove how great you are at your job and other companies are offering you life changing money. Because you know, you wouldn't want anyone to think you're putting yourself up for bid.....

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

I’m biased because I think a championship at any level is a big deal. But if a game isn’t moving you towards that, I can see why a player puts their future in the forefront

Exactly..... if they were in the hunt for a ring then he would've played the whole game but it's just a bowl game. He was literally Todd by everyone, INCLUDING the coach, he really shouldn't play. He WANTED to play so they made a deal. You have one half to beat the record then you're out. He didn't quit, he agreed to put his future first.

[BigBruceBaker]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

Eh. You’re wrong. But it’s all good. You’ve been wrong before and I’m sure you’ll be wrong again.

[Prodigal Cat]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

And you know? How’s that ivory tower you’ve erected for yourself? Dude quit on his team and has quit numerous times before. Actions speak louder than words and his says he’s a quitter. Everywhere not just little ole Bobcat Nation are currently crapping on his conduct but by all means come here and lecture us about how “we don’t know”.

[BigBruceBaker]

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

I’m biased because I think a championship at any level is a big deal. But if a game isn’t moving you towards that, I can see why a player puts their future in the forefront

Exactly..... if they were in the hunt for a ring then he would've played the whole game but it's just a bowl game. He was literally Todd by everyone, INCLUDING the coach, he really shouldn't play. He WANTED to play so they made a deal. You have one half to beat the record then you're out. He didn't quit, he agreed to put his future first.

….yep. And zero of those teammates hold it against him. They also wanted to see a bit more in what they have in Williams next year.

[BigBruceBaker]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

And you know? How’s that ivory tower you’ve erected for yourself? Dude quit on his team and has quit numerous times before. Actions speak louder than words and his says he’s a quitter. Everywhere not just little ole Bobcat Nation are currently crapping on his conduct but by all means come here and lecture us about how “we don’t know”.

Ward is well liked and respected.

Also, it was the plan, between coaches and him. Regardless of whether you like it. He’s also 70% of the reason Miami even had a winning record this year. Hope he kills it in the nfl and glad he didn’t get hurt in a meaningless bowl game no one cares about.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

Fair but come on man, he is about to made a stupid amount of money. Why risk the injury if there is no point. Tons of guys opt out but Cam wanted to get the record.

Colorado has two top 5 picks on their roster who played tonight. Colorado ALSO took out a disability insurance policy on all their players in case one had a career damaging injury in the Whatever Bowl. Miami could have done the same thing.

Its a little disingenuous to call out a 22 year old kid on the cusp of a $10m/year payday to risk that career on a meaningless bowl game.

You want guys to opt in? Insure them against a career ending injury, then write it into their scholarships. Pretty easy stuff.

Problem is that for most schools (and, lets be honest, most fans) its a one sided deal.

You hit the nail on the head. Deion MADE Colorado take out insurance policies on those kids just in case they got hurt. Obviously he was more for his son than anything because he knows without him they had no chance, although it didn't help in the end lol.

Every other kudv that takes out insurance policies are lots that actuality have money in order to do that. Most these kids can't afford that and the schools don't do it. This is the FIRST time a school took out the policies.

The coach and the kid came to an agreementthat they felt was in the best interest of both.

As a former player I get it but I'm also a fan of the game. I love competitiveness of these players and coaches. Yet I also understand them making these decisions. Like I don't think people understand that many of these come from next to nothing. They are now able to put siblings through school, no scholarships. Their sons and daughters of even remotely good will get scholarships and be looked at over lesser players JUST because their dad was an nfl player. Going to the nfl is LIFE CHANGING, but going top 10 is even more so. But hey go out there and play for our enjoyment get hurt by get to say you played no matter what... just silly

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

And you know? How’s that ivory tower you’ve erected for yourself? Dude quit on his team and has quit numerous times before. Actions speak louder than words and his says he’s a quitter. Everywhere not just little ole Bobcat Nation are currently crapping on his conduct but by all means come here and lecture us about how “we don’t know”.

Yes I do know... as stated I know him personally. I grew up with his family. I don't care if other people are questioning because they don't know either... just like you don't know. He's never quit on his team.... he's left teams because he's had the opportunity to advance himself and position himself to be a top 10 pick... that's not quitting on your team.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

Eh. You’re wrong. But it’s all good. You’ve been wrong before and I’m sure you’ll be wrong again.

Been wrong before... I'm sure I'll be wrong again... it's caked being human... but about this I'm not. I know what I speak of.

[coloradocat]

Ultimately, the only person on BN that really cares about all this has a close personal connection to Ward so his passion is understandable. The rest of us are just writing on a message board. Probably time for ALL of us to move on to another topic.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

Eh. You’re wrong. But it’s all good. You’ve been wrong before and I’m sure you’ll be wrong again.

Glad we got that cleared up.

[BleedingBLue]

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.
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Nit picking here since millions is millions, but 100 million is waaaaaaaay off. Caleb Williams rookie contract is worth 39.5 million. He was pick #1. Ward may go #1, but he's not making 100 million.