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[onceacat]

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

Nit picking here since millions is millions, but 100 million is waaaaaaaay off. Caleb Williams rookie contract is worth 39.5 million. He was pick #1. Ward may go #1, but he's not making 100 million.
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Barring injury, Caleb Williams is going to make way more than $100m. There are 18 NFL QBs with $100m (nominal value) contracts. For obvious reasons, rookie contracts are a lot less than the contracts these guys sign afterward.

Always a risk that the #1/#2 QB drafted become a bust...but it doesn't happen very often.

[BigBruceBaker]

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

Nit picking here since millions is millions, but 100 million is waaaaaaaay off. Caleb Williams rookie contract is worth 39.5 million. He was pick #1. Ward may go #1, but he's not making 100 million.
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….over the course of his career.

[BigBruceBaker]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

Eh. You’re wrong. But it’s all good. You’ve been wrong before and I’m sure you’ll be wrong again.

Been wrong before... I'm sure I'll be wrong again... it's caked being human... but about this I'm not. I know what I speak of.

lol. I’m a huge hurricanes fan and follow them closely. I was telling my ol’ buddy highline he was wrong. Not you. You are spot on.

[GoldstoneCat]

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

And you know? How’s that ivory tower you’ve erected for yourself? Dude quit on his team and has quit numerous times before. Actions speak louder than words and his says he’s a quitter. Everywhere not just little ole Bobcat Nation are currently crapping on his conduct but by all means come here and lecture us about how “we don’t know”.

Yes I do know... as stated I know him personally. I grew up with his family. I don't care if other people are questioning because they don't know either... just like you don't know. He's never quit on his team.... he's left teams because he's had the opportunity to advance himself and position himself to be a top 10 pick... that's not quitting on your team.

There's a whole subset of people who refuse to understand modern college football. The bowl system is completely obsolete. Literally nobody cares. I absolutely guarantee you the entire Miami locker room knew he wasn't playing one snap after he broke the record and were fine with it. Playoff game? Yeah that's a different discussion. Pop tarts bowl? It's like a major league spring training game. Everything those teams were going to achieve was achieved before Kickoff today.

[onceacat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy would never what specifically?

Quit on his brothers

You can’t talk trash on bowl games and then claim that not playing in one makes you Judas

I’m confused. Did I talk trash on bowl games? I’m not sure understand this post.

I shouldn’t say you specifically, I apologize for that. But a ton of people on this board absolutely trash now games and their significance. And then we judge players for protecting contracts of MILLIONS of dollars by skipping them. If it’s not getting you closer to a championship, why risk career ending careers on meaningless games?

Cause you got people that don't have the foggiest of ideas what is like. None of those players make those decisions lightly and teammates don't hold it against them. They all understand. If you're a lock for top 10 that's 100mil off the muscle. Yeah most guys would play too get their name etched in the record books then pull themselves (or in cam's case mutally decide) to protect your future. I know of many coaches that will tell a kid you're not playing because THEY know how life changing going to the nfl can be. But people who don't know just want them to play for their enjoyment then label them bush league or low character and not even know the kid or what they actually do or have done.

And you know? How’s that ivory tower you’ve erected for yourself? Dude quit on his team and has quit numerous times before. Actions speak louder than words and his says he’s a quitter. Everywhere not just little ole Bobcat Nation are currently crapping on his conduct but by all means come here and lecture us about how “we don’t know”.

Yes I do know... as stated I know him personally. I grew up with his family. I don't care if other people are questioning because they don't know either... just like you don't know. He's never quit on his team.... he's left teams because he's had the opportunity to advance himself and position himself to be a top 10 pick... that's not quitting on your team.

There's a whole subset of people who refuse to understand modern college football. The bowl system is completely obsolete. Literally nobody cares. I absolutely guarantee you the entire Miami locker room knew he wasn't playing one snap after he broke the record and were fine with it. Playoff game? Yeah that's a different discussion. Pop tarts bowl? It's like a major league spring training game. Everything those teams were going to achieve was achieved before Kickoff today.

Exactly..... my only beef and rain for speaking up is baking this kid character into question. He's a great kid that had never quit. It was a calculated move. Just like I would defend any bobcat players integrity that i personally know, i will defend his. Calling him a quitter and bush league i will stabs and speak on in his families absence. You cab disagree with the move, that's personal opinion but cashing his charactern into play and you don't know him or the situation..nah I stand on that one.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

Another person gets it. Most people don't realize that these scholarships are year to year and at any given time they will pull them for any reason. Schools push kids out for underperforming. It may be the kids fault it may be the schools fault.. maybe they offered the kid and did a bad evaluation.. any way that it goes is year to year and these schools are far from loyal. Every program isn't like montana st ran with integrity. Honestly I wish I had gone to a school like montana st, I think I would've been better for it... and I went to a top tier nationally ranked academic school.

[tetoncat]

Cam Ward of UIW then Wazzu then Miami just quit his team at the half in their bowl game. If I’m a NFL draft scout I wouldn’t touch that quitter with a 10 foot pole. Guy has Jamarcus Russel’s vibes draft bust written all over him.

I know the kid personally he isn't a quitter and he's NOTHING like JaMarcus Russell. He was told not to play in the game. Every nfl scout encouraged him not to play, called his family and agent and told them it wasn't in his best interest to play, Mario also told him he didn't have to play... he CHOSE to play agreeing with the coach to play the first half so that a UM player had the d1 passing td record. Yes he sat out the 2nd half because he's going to be a top 10 pick and he wanted to play but he also had to protect his future. That kid is one of the biggest competitors, nicest kids, and hardest working kids you'll ever meet.

This kid comes from a really small town in Texas, west Columbia.... ran the triple option because the coach was just terrible. He had one offer uiw...3yrs later he's gone from fcs to p4 to a legendary program and in the process broke the d1 passing td record. You don't do that being a quitter and not working hard. You know nothing of the kid and are making comments based off not an iota of knowledge.

Oh and the fight on the sideline had NOTHING to do with him... stuff happens from time to time but to make it seem like he was the root is silly... he was actually on the field playing when the fight happened.

Cool. Tommy would never.

Tommy .......cam...... two different people playing on two different stages with two different projections.... so your "Tommy would never" falls flat because there's 100million on the line you have NO CLUE what a person would decide....

My point is the moment $$ trumps competitiveness, the moment you care more about the business you’ve lost. You can post all about his character and how great he is but he literally quit on his team in front of a national audience. Actions speak LOUDER than any words. Nothing you say trumps that. A bonified loser.

I don't think the issue is that he "quit" on his team at halftime. To me the issue is that he played in a bowl game only long enough to earn an individual achievement and then pulled himself from the game. I have no opinion on Cam as a player or a person but that's something I think we would all assume Tommy wouldn't do.

If 2 weeks ago he pulled himself and said it was to prepare for the draft I could understand, respect no, but understand yes. What he did today is absolutely bush league. The nut low in character.

If the team knew the plan how is that quitting on his guys. Maybe they wanted him to get the record.

[tetoncat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

I KNOW the kid and the family. I'm from their area. This kid didn't quit. He is far from me first. Nobody had EVER said that about him..... EVER. He had ONE offer coming out of college, played his butt off and had an opportunity to better himself and position himself to chase his dreams. So your son is vastly under recruited coming out of high school but you KNOW he has big time talent. So he goes to the ONLY school that would offer him... balls out and shows his ability. Now your son can go to the p4 level and get seen by nfl scouts against the best in the nation. So much so that he breaks the single season record in passing yds and tds for a historic program and positions himself to possibly be the FIRST qb taken the nfln draft securing 100mil dollars.... you're telling me your telling your kid to make this moves? You people kill me with the kid "putting himself up for bid", he played well and found situations that would allow him to legitimately chase his dreams.

Please make sure that you never leave your job when you prove how great you are at your job and other companies are offering you life changing money. Because you know, you wouldn't want anyone to think you're putting yourself up for bid.....

You have made a ton of good points. My disappointment is you calling someone a never was has been (or whatever it was). If you expect us on here to understand your connections without really knowing who you are you also need to assume some on here may have similar experience, connections, or knowledge

[tetoncat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

[onceacat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

Livvy Dunne made more money that any other athlete in any sport for several years (Shadeur Sanders may have passed her this year). She's not going to be competing professionally, but I bet she doesn't lose any income when she graduates this year. She isn't being paid to be a gymnast, she's getting paid for her NIL.

Arch Manning is making more NIL than almost anyone else in the country, and hes been riding the bench for 2 years.

Hes not getting paid to play football, hes getting paid to advertise for UT and a variety of other clients.

Not only are you completely wrong as to the facts of what NIL pays for, you are still missing the major point: Young men make responsible decisions & HiLine (maybe you) are offended that they act like responsible adults.

[MTnative]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

Livvy Dunne made more money that any other athlete in any sport for several years (Shadeur Sanders may have passed her this year). She's not going to be competing professionally, but I bet she doesn't lose any income when she graduates this year. She isn't being paid to be a gymnast, she's getting paid for her NIL.

Arch Manning is making more NIL than almost anyone else in the country, and hes been riding the bench for 2 years.

Hes not getting paid to play football, hes getting paid to advertise for UT and a variety of other clients.

Not only are you completely wrong as to the facts of what NIL pays for, you are still missing the major point: Young men make responsible decisions & HiLine (maybe you) are offended that they act like responsible adults.

We get it. You’re going to beat the NIL stuff to death. Move on my man. You’re not going to change anybody’s mind.

[CodyCat]

Cam Ward isn’t in the portal. Cam Ward doesn’t play for the Bobcats. Take your argument to the College Forum.

So… any new Portal News? Does anyone know how many SDSU guys are actually in the portal?

[91catAlum]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

Livvy Dunne made more money that any other athlete in any sport for several years (Shadeur Sanders may have passed her this year). She's not going to be competing professionally, but I bet she doesn't lose any income when she graduates this year. She isn't being paid to be a gymnast, she's getting paid for her NIL.

Arch Manning is making more NIL than almost anyone else in the country, and hes been riding the bench for 2 years.

Hes not getting paid to play football, hes getting paid to advertise for UT and a variety of other clients.

Not only are you completely wrong as to the facts of what NIL pays for, you are still missing the major point: Young men make responsible decisions & HiLine (maybe you) are offended that they act like responsible adults.

Cool. Now do all the offensive linemen in college football, whose names aren't known to 90% of fans of their team yet they're making 6-7 figures.

[onceacat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

Livvy Dunne made more money that any other athlete in any sport for several years (Shadeur Sanders may have passed her this year). She's not going to be competing professionally, but I bet she doesn't lose any income when she graduates this year. She isn't being paid to be a gymnast, she's getting paid for her NIL.

Arch Manning is making more NIL than almost anyone else in the country, and hes been riding the bench for 2 years.

Hes not getting paid to play football, hes getting paid to advertise for UT and a variety of other clients.

Not only are you completely wrong as to the facts of what NIL pays for, you are still missing the major point: Young men make responsible decisions & HiLine (maybe you) are offended that they act like responsible adults.

Cool. Now do all the offensive linemen in college football, whose names aren't known to 90% of fans of their team yet they're making 6-7 figures.

Typically for doing advertising, promotional events, and the like, yes. They make that money even if they end up not playing.

[tetoncat]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

Livvy Dunne made more money that any other athlete in any sport for several years (Shadeur Sanders may have passed her this year). She's not going to be competing professionally, but I bet she doesn't lose any income when she graduates this year. She isn't being paid to be a gymnast, she's getting paid for her NIL.

Arch Manning is making more NIL than almost anyone else in the country, and hes been riding the bench for 2 years.

Hes not getting paid to play football, hes getting paid to advertise for UT and a variety of other clients.

Not only are you completely wrong as to the facts of what NIL pays for, you are still missing the major point: Young men make responsible decisions & HiLine (maybe you) are offended that they act like responsible adults.

That argument makes no sense. Would you know who Livvy was if she wasn't a college gymnast. Would Manning get NIL if he wasn't on the team. I made no comment on what it pays for, just on how it is allocated. There has always been endorsement money for pro athletes or celebrities. NIL is an extension of that and now college athletes can get some of it. More power to them.
As I've stated above I don't have a problem with what Ward did. You are assuming I do.
I bet any of these athletes NIL stops when they are off the team. Do they have other sources of income available with endorsement deals. Absolutely as long as their name or image remains relevant.

[91catAlum]

This is funny, if you think he didn’t quit on his team you are being naive. You can say he had a deal with the coach, but I can guarantee you it didn’t go down the way some are saying. Coaches want to win and they probably told him that they want him to play and he said I will only play the first half. He wanted the record and coaches wanted to win so they agreed, not much of a deal if you ask me. They knew he gave them the best chance to win, so they probably agreed. There is no doubt a me first mentality to ward, and that’s based on him putting himself out for bid 3 colleges ago. Do I blame him, kind of, but the system of paying players is the real issue and this will become the norm. It’s exactly what the NBA is, a bunch of overpaid premadonnas, that only care about the fame and money, so they sit when they want to. Viewership for college sports will start to decline because of this.

You seem to have a weird hang up about young guys exercising basic financial sense. So many things but here's a start:

*Payers don't get paid to play football, they get paid for NIL (advertising, sponsorships, etc). It's still a significant violation for a university to pay a student to play sports ball.

*The NFL guarantees money in their contracts regardless of things like career ending injury. If you are really concerned, you could be advocating for these guys to be insured the same way professional players are insured.

*Making smart financial decisions is something that young people struggle with. Perhaps the reason that they struggle to make good decisions as workers is that people like you keep getting ass chapped that they aren't offering their services for free. I call that being a responsible grown ass man, but hey, if you want people to work for free for your entertainment, I guess that explains a lot of your posts.

If UIW wanted Cam Ward to stay, they should have offered him a 5 year contract. If WSU wanted him, they should have offered him a 4 year contract. But they didn't want to do that. They wanted to give the kid a 1 year commitment just in case he suffered a career ending injury...so Ward treated those institutions with the same level of commitment that they showed him: a year to year commitment.

If fans want players to commit, then players need to have their universities make the same commitment to them.

This is pretty basic adult stuff. I'm not sure why you blame the players for simply being responsible adult human beings.

There would be no NIL if they were not playing football, so essentially they are getting paid to play.

Livvy Dunne made more money that any other athlete in any sport for several years (Shadeur Sanders may have passed her this year). She's not going to be competing professionally, but I bet she doesn't lose any income when she graduates this year. She isn't being paid to be a gymnast, she's getting paid for her NIL.

Arch Manning is making more NIL than almost anyone else in the country, and hes been riding the bench for 2 years.

Hes not getting paid to play football, hes getting paid to advertise for UT and a variety of other clients.

Not only are you completely wrong as to the facts of what NIL pays for, you are still missing the major point: Young men make responsible decisions & HiLine (maybe you) are offended that they act like responsible adults.

Cool. Now do all the offensive linemen in college football, whose names aren't known to 90% of fans of their team yet they're making 6-7 figures.

Typically for doing advertising, promotional events, and the like, yes. They make that money even if they end up not playing.

Very few of them do any advertising or promotional activities, yet still get paid.
They are paid to be on the team, whether playing or preparing to play.

[BlueNGoldTilIDie]

Okay let’s get this back on track and actually talk about the Portal. Who cares about Cam ward. But Mark Gronowski is entering the portal with the option of going to the draft.

[nanacat]

With all due respect to BBT's personal relationship to the player in question, it's a bad look, period. Justified, a mutual decision with the team, whatever, it's a bad look and generates press like this...https://sports.yahoo.com/2025-nfl-draft ... 39755.html
With that 49er player refusing to play a few weeks ago, (can't recall his name), it was a very unwise decision by this young man. "Entitled" is a word used to define, not positively, this generation, and that's a bit how his actions came across. It's a money game, I get that, but credibility, loyalty, and commitment are important traits. In this case, what BBT knows of this young man really doesn't matter. What's published and reported has the potential to undo the positives about him. Time will tell if it hurts his draft stock.

[Cataholic]

Checking to see if there was any actual portal news. What a sh1t show of a thread. Let’s move on folks.