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[onceacat]

Washington State versus NFL….

That is insane.

Washington State will be an independent next year correct?

If you’re trying to increase your draft stock is it worth the chance? Probably depends how much NIL money is being offered. If it’s 7 figures I think he should go to WSU

They have a schedule built already but won’t be the new PAC 12 until 2026.

With his SDSU head coach going to WSU, that has to be an attractive option. Maybe more than NIL money to raise his draft stock.

What I don’t understand is how he is getting a 5th year. He has already played 4 full years of football: 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024. 2021 was a medical redshirt. He might have a normal redshirt available, but he already has played 4 years.

2020 is corvid year, doesn't count, that is why tm was a true FR in 2021

This is so strange to me. Both Gronowski and Tommy graduated in 2019. Gronowski played in 2020 (10 games) while Tommy redshirted. I understand that is was Covid, but now Tommy is out of eligibility and Gronowski gets an extra year? What a strange world of eligibility right now.

Tommy still has his redshirt, he is considered a TRUE senior, even though he had 2020 with the team

Yeah, Tommy could be on a team next year, he would just have to redshirt...Oh, geez, I just had an idea:

A kid can play 4 games in the regular season & the playoffs in their redshirt year. Bring Tommy back & suit him up for Davis, UM, Oregon (if he wants to help his draft stock) & one other game-maybe SDSU or maybe Weber so he gets game reps for the end of season run.

Then let him burn through the playoffs in one last cascade of glory!

[onceacat]

Washington State versus NFL….

That is insane.

Washington State will be an independent next year correct?

If you’re trying to increase your draft stock is it worth the chance? Probably depends how much NIL money is being offered. If it’s 7 figures I think he should go to WSU

They have a schedule built already but won’t be the new PAC 12 until 2026.

With his SDSU head coach going to WSU, that has to be an attractive option. Maybe more than NIL money to raise his draft stock.

What I don’t understand is how he is getting a 5th year. He has already played 4 full years of football: 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024. 2021 was a medical redshirt. He might have a normal redshirt available, but he already has played 4 years.

2020 is corvid year, doesn't count, that is why tm was a true FR in 2021

This is so strange to me. Both Gronowski and Tommy graduated in 2019. Gronowski played in 2020 (10 games) while Tommy redshirted. I understand that is was Covid, but now Tommy is out of eligibility and Gronowski gets an extra year? What a strange world of eligibility right now.

Tommy still has his redshirt, he is considered a TRUE senior, even though he had 2020 with the team

Yes. I understand the application of the rules. I just don’t quite agree that two kids who each played full 4 seasons in 5 years should have different eligibility status. What does that do to the record books? An asterisk for every kid who got 5 seasons of stats?

Yes, all the records set by guys who had a covid year should be asterisked. Or you could throw out the numbers from their Covid year if you want to.

It's a little moot, though, with the other changes: Expansion of playoff field in FCS from 16 to 24 teams. Allowing Redshirts to play 4 games. Then allowing Redshirts to play in the playoffs. Expansion of the BCS playoffs adding 2-3 extra games. Loosened rules on medical redshirts.


There was a Utah player (cant remember who) who was a 5 or 6 time All Pac 12 selection and graduated with a year of eligibility remaining (All conference as a redshirt in 4 games, Covid year, medical redshirt year & 3 years of regular eligibility).

I think next year is the last one where anyone will have Covid asterisks?

[spring creek cat]

Washington State versus NFL….

That is insane.

Washington State will be an independent next year correct?

If you’re trying to increase your draft stock is it worth the chance? Probably depends how much NIL money is being offered. If it’s 7 figures I think he should go to WSU

They have a schedule built already but won’t be the new PAC 12 until 2026.

With his SDSU head coach going to WSU, that has to be an attractive option. Maybe more than NIL money to raise his draft stock.

What I don’t understand is how he is getting a 5th year. He has already played 4 full years of football: 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024. 2021 was a medical redshirt. He might have a normal redshirt available, but he already has played 4 years.

2020 is corvid year, doesn't count, that is why tm was a true FR in 2021

This is so strange to me. Both Gronowski and Tommy graduated in 2019. Gronowski played in 2020 (10 games) while Tommy redshirted. I understand that is was Covid, but now Tommy is out of eligibility and Gronowski gets an extra year? What a strange world of eligibility right now.

Tommy still has his redshirt, he is considered a TRUE senior, even though he had 2020 with the team

Yeah, Tommy could be on a team next year, he would just have to redshirt...Oh, geez, I just had an idea:

A kid can play 4 games in the regular season & the playoffs in their redshirt year. Bring Tommy back & suit him up for Davis, UM, Oregon (if he wants to help his draft stock) & one other game-maybe SDSU or maybe Weber so he gets game reps for the end of season run.

Then let him burn through the playoffs in one last cascade of glory!

That is an interesting idea! Wow! That would be crazy and awesome!! Maybe that needs to be floated to Tommy!!

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Washington State versus NFL….

That is insane.

Washington State will be an independent next year correct?

If you’re trying to increase your draft stock is it worth the chance? Probably depends how much NIL money is being offered. If it’s 7 figures I think he should go to WSU

They have a schedule built already but won’t be the new PAC 12 until 2026.

With his SDSU head coach going to WSU, that has to be an attractive option. Maybe more than NIL money to raise his draft stock.

What I don’t understand is how he is getting a 5th year. He has already played 4 full years of football: 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024. 2021 was a medical redshirt. He might have a normal redshirt available, but he already has played 4 years.

2020 is corvid year, doesn't count, that is why tm was a true FR in 2021

This is so strange to me. Both Gronowski and Tommy graduated in 2019. Gronowski played in 2020 (10 games) while Tommy redshirted. I understand that is was Covid, but now Tommy is out of eligibility and Gronowski gets an extra year? What a strange world of eligibility right now.

Tommy still has his redshirt, he is considered a TRUE senior, even though he had 2020 with the team

Yeah, Tommy could be on a team next year, he would just have to redshirt...Oh, geez, I just had an idea:

A kid can play 4 games in the regular season & the playoffs in their redshirt year. Bring Tommy back & suit him up for Davis, UM, Oregon (if he wants to help his draft stock) & one other game-maybe SDSU or maybe Weber so he gets game reps for the end of season run.

Then let him burn through the playoffs in one last cascade of glory!

That is an interesting idea! Wow! That would be crazy and awesome!! Maybe that needs to be floated to Tommy!!

Actually not a bad idea at all, especially if his draft stock isn't high right now. Helps everyone

[CodyCat]

I thought Tommy told the staff his freshman year that he was only going to be at MSU for four years.

[MSU01]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

[allcat]

I'm hating the portal even more all the time. A coach should be able to leave , but now they leave and also gut the team on the way out.

[coloradocat]

Washington State versus NFL….

That is insane.

Washington State will be an independent next year correct?

If you’re trying to increase your draft stock is it worth the chance? Probably depends how much NIL money is being offered. If it’s 7 figures I think he should go to WSU

They have a schedule built already but won’t be the new PAC 12 until 2026.

With his SDSU head coach going to WSU, that has to be an attractive option. Maybe more than NIL money to raise his draft stock.

What I don’t understand is how he is getting a 5th year. He has already played 4 full years of football: 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024. 2021 was a medical redshirt. He might have a normal redshirt available, but he already has played 4 years.

2020 is corvid year, doesn't count, that is why tm was a true FR in 2021

This is so strange to me. Both Gronowski and Tommy graduated in 2019. Gronowski played in 2020 (10 games) while Tommy redshirted. I understand that is was Covid, but now Tommy is out of eligibility and Gronowski gets an extra year? What a strange world of eligibility right now.

Tommy still has his redshirt, he is considered a TRUE senior, even though he had 2020 with the team

Yeah, Tommy could be on a team next year, he would just have to redshirt...Oh, geez, I just had an idea:

A kid can play 4 games in the regular season & the playoffs in their redshirt year. Bring Tommy back & suit him up for Davis, UM, Oregon (if he wants to help his draft stock) & one other game-maybe SDSU or maybe Weber so he gets game reps for the end of season run.

Then let him burn through the playoffs in one last cascade of glory!

That is an interesting idea! Wow! That would be crazy and awesome!! Maybe that needs to be floated to Tommy!!

Actually not a bad idea at all, especially if his draft stock isn't high right now. Helps everyone

I love the idea of testing out the limits of another NCAA rule. Let's do our part to bring upon its destruction!

[Catsrgrood]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

It’s not going to happen, so it’s kind of a silly topic, but technically he has his redshirt left.

So some of the previous posts are correct, he could play 4 games and the playoffs next year….

2020 didn’t count toward anyone’s eligibility and he played 4 years. Redshirt still remains.

[MSU01]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

It’s not going to happen, so it’s kind of a silly topic, but technically he has his redshirt left.

So some of the previous posts are correct, he could play 4 games and the playoffs next year….

2020 didn’t count toward anyone’s eligibility and he played 4 years. Redshirt still remains.

His redshirt is gone now, you can't use it after you've already used your four normal years. I agree it's a silly topic but some here seem to think it's an actual possibility.

[onceacat]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

All football players have 5 years to play 4...Tommy has a year of redshirt remaining since he redshirted in the Covid 2020 which doesnt count as a year of anything for anyone.

He 100% no questions asked could play 4 regular season games and the playoffs if he were to choose to come back and make 2025 his redshirt year.

Not even remotely controversial under NCAA rules.

[onceacat]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

It’s not going to happen, so it’s kind of a silly topic, but technically he has his redshirt left.

So some of the previous posts are correct, he could play 4 games and the playoffs next year….

2020 didn’t count toward anyone’s eligibility and he played 4 years. Redshirt still remains.

His redshirt is gone now, you can't use it after you've already used your four normal years. I agree it's a silly topic but some here seem to think it's an actual possibility.

You can use your redshirt any time you want. It doesnt go away.

Its not going to happen, but it totally could if Tommy were to want to improve his chances to play in the NFL.

[tdub]

There is no actual thing as a ‘redshirt year’. It’s just a moniker used to identify the year the athlete doesn’t play. The standard rule (I know the courts are doing wacky things now that will probably change this), is that you have a 5-year window after enrolling full time to play 4 seasons. Once you play the 4 eligible seasons you are out of eligibility. I say “eligible seasons” as the season with 4 games or less doesn't count as an eligible season. So no, you can’t use the 5th year after you played 4. You’d be ineligible to play even one snap.

[coloradocat]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

All football players have 5 years to play 4...Tommy has a year of redshirt remaining since he redshirted in the Covid 2020 which doesnt count as a year of anything for anyone.

He 100% no questions asked could play 4 regular season games and the playoffs if he were to choose to come back and make 2025 his redshirt year.

Not even remotely controversial under NCAA rules.

Oh it would be very controversial under NCAA rules. So controversial that he'd probably have to sue to get the NCAA to allow players to use their redshirt AFTER using their four full years. It would be hilarious when he wins that case too.

[SparkCat]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

All football players have 5 years to play 4...Tommy has a year of redshirt remaining since he redshirted in the Covid 2020 which doesnt count as a year of anything for anyone.

He 100% no questions asked could play 4 regular season games and the playoffs if he were to choose to come back and make 2025 his redshirt year.

Not even remotely controversial under NCAA rules.

Oh it would be very controversial under NCAA rules. So controversial that he'd probably have to sue to get the NCAA to allow players to use their redshirt AFTER using their four full years. It would be hilarious when he wins that case too.

If such a ‘redshirt’ year were to exist, how would that apply to track and field or other sports that don’t have a defined ‘post season’? Would qualifying for conference, regionals and the national championship count towards the post season for track and field?

[coloradocat]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

All football players have 5 years to play 4...Tommy has a year of redshirt remaining since he redshirted in the Covid 2020 which doesnt count as a year of anything for anyone.

He 100% no questions asked could play 4 regular season games and the playoffs if he were to choose to come back and make 2025 his redshirt year.

Not even remotely controversial under NCAA rules.

Oh it would be very controversial under NCAA rules. So controversial that he'd probably have to sue to get the NCAA to allow players to use their redshirt AFTER using their four full years. It would be hilarious when he wins that case too.

If such a ‘redshirt’ year were to exist, how would that apply to track and field or other sports that don’t have a defined ‘post season’? Would qualifying for conference, regionals and the national championship count towards the post season for track and field?

People don't really think this is a serious topic do they?

[wbtfg]

On a related note: Birds aren't real.

[coachouert]

On a related note: Birds aren't real.

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

[SparkCat]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Tommy does NOT have any eligibility left, end of story. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. Four years.

All football players have 5 years to play 4...Tommy has a year of redshirt remaining since he redshirted in the Covid 2020 which doesnt count as a year of anything for anyone.

He 100% no questions asked could play 4 regular season games and the playoffs if he were to choose to come back and make 2025 his redshirt year.

Not even remotely controversial under NCAA rules.

Oh it would be very controversial under NCAA rules. So controversial that he'd probably have to sue to get the NCAA to allow players to use their redshirt AFTER using their four full years. It would be hilarious when he wins that case too.

If such a ‘redshirt’ year were to exist, how would that apply to track and field or other sports that don’t have a defined ‘post season’? Would qualifying for conference, regionals and the national championship count towards the post season for track and field?

People don't really think this is a serious topic do they?

I don’t at all. I think it’s silly, just wanted to make a point that it would need to be consistent across all sports, however, with the many ways players are getting their eligibility extended it would also not surprise me.

[AFCAT]