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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by GavinDonos » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm

Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works. And Bozeman really isn't all that as far as quality of life goes compared to other college towns. It's not like Coach V. goes snowboarding / trout fishing that often.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt to the end!



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by catatac » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:47 pm

GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt!
Totally agree, and all along I've just been hoping for ONE more year so hopefully this means we get at least that. Although again, there is absolutely no guarantee he doesn't announce on January 7th that Oregon (or whatever bug name program) is buying out his contract and hiring him to be the new OC. (although OR might not have been the best example as I think they'll still be playing.)


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by RUACAT » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:57 pm

GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works. And Bozeman really isn't all that as far as quality of life goes compared to other college towns. It's not like Coach V. goes snowboarding / trout fishing that often.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt to the end!
I'm not optimistic Vigen will stay forever, but people have been saying the same about Mark Few for a couple of decades. Yes, I know you can't compare the difference in FCS/FBS football to a highly successful D-1 basketball program, but I sure as heck could think of better places to live than SpoCompton if the opportunity presented itself. Maybe, just maybe, the family has found their forever home in the Gallatin Valley (or at the very least until the kids finish their collegiate careers).



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by Monymony » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:08 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:12 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:38 am
AFCAT wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:49 am
...also, as we all know, contracts don't keep coaches from moving on to other jobs.
You sir are correct..Posted yesterday someone needs pony up and donate 8 mil to keep him around for 5 years. Figured you or someone found your senses and wrote a check.. \:D/
If I had $8mil to spare, it would go to the new East Grandstand fund.
My exact thought :lol: Vigen is a great coach but new east stands and some extras in the open space would sure be great



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by AFCAT » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:28 pm

catatac wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:47 pm
GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt!
Totally agree, and all along I've just been hoping for ONE more year so hopefully this means we get at least that. Although again, there is absolutely no guarantee he doesn't announce on January 7th that Oregon (or whatever bug name program) is buying out his contract and hiring him to be the new OC. (although OR might not have been the best example as I think they'll still be playing.)
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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by coloradocat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:35 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:28 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:47 pm
GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt!
Totally agree, and all along I've just been hoping for ONE more year so hopefully this means we get at least that. Although again, there is absolutely no guarantee he doesn't announce on January 7th that Oregon (or whatever bug name program) is buying out his contract and hiring him to be the new OC. (although OR might not have been the best example as I think they'll still be playing.)
Yup, not relaxing until Fall camp 2025.

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I mean, he wasn't finished looking for a job so...


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by CodyCat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:39 pm

I think Vigen is a far far better HC than he was offensive coordinator. I’d be shocked if any P4 team wanted him as their coordinator.


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by Camo_Cat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:26 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:28 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:47 pm
GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt!
Totally agree, and all along I've just been hoping for ONE more year so hopefully this means we get at least that. Although again, there is absolutely no guarantee he doesn't announce on January 7th that Oregon (or whatever bug name program) is buying out his contract and hiring him to be the new OC. (although OR might not have been the best example as I think they'll still be playing.)
Yup, not relaxing until Fall camp 2025.

January 8th 2021 #UnfinishedBusiness

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January 23rd 2021

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Not to say that we don't lose Vigen, and perhaps very soon. But I also think Choate and Vigen are two very different individuals. Choate is a jumper. I'm fairly certain his time at MSU was his longest coaching tenure at one school, and that was only 4 years. I often feel like he would jump ship on a program mid-season if the opportunity presented itself. Vigen, on the other hand, has only been with three different programs with long stints at each. I definitely get more of a sense of loyalty and commitment from Coach Vigen.



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by nanacat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:42 pm

Camo_Cat wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:26 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:28 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:47 pm
GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt!
Totally agree, and all along I've just been hoping for ONE more year so hopefully this means we get at least that. Although again, there is absolutely no guarantee he doesn't announce on January 7th that Oregon (or whatever bug name program) is buying out his contract and hiring him to be the new OC. (although OR might not have been the best example as I think they'll still be playing.)
Yup, not relaxing until Fall camp 2025.

January 8th 2021 #UnfinishedBusiness

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Not to say that we don't lose Vigen, and perhaps very soon. But I also think Choate and Vigen are two very different individuals. Choate is a jumper. I'm fairly certain his time at MSU was his longest coaching tenure at one school, and that was only 4 years. I often feel like he would jump ship on a program mid-season if the opportunity presented itself. Vigen, on the other hand, has only been with three different programs with long stints at each. I definitely get more of a sense of loyalty and commitment from Coach Vigen.
I agree! And certainly when he has a National Championship under his belt his stock will rise. But maybe he won't be satisfied with just one. Winning is addictive!



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by Bobcats406 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:48 pm

Congrats to Coach Vigen! Hats off to Waded and Leon for making this happen—it’s a win-win, understanding it's a matter of time. It shows the strength of our program/university willing to invest and keep this job among the most attractive in all of FCS. Leon has a clear understanding of what's ahead.
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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by HogheadCats » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:53 pm

I think we just enjoy what we have while we have it.


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by imacat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:56 pm

We on BN have from fire Vigen during the New Mexico game to overjoyed at him staying. No one could possibly accuse us of being fickle.



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by AFCAT » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:07 pm

Camo_Cat wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:26 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:28 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:47 pm
GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt!
Totally agree, and all along I've just been hoping for ONE more year so hopefully this means we get at least that. Although again, there is absolutely no guarantee he doesn't announce on January 7th that Oregon (or whatever bug name program) is buying out his contract and hiring him to be the new OC. (although OR might not have been the best example as I think they'll still be playing.)
Yup, not relaxing until Fall camp 2025.

January 8th 2021 #UnfinishedBusiness

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January 23rd 2021

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Not to say that we don't lose Vigen, and perhaps very soon. But I also think Choate and Vigen are two very different individuals. Choate is a jumper. I'm fairly certain his time at MSU was his longest coaching tenure at one school, and that was only 4 years. I often feel like he would jump ship on a program mid-season if the opportunity presented itself. Vigen, on the other hand, has only been with three different programs with long stints at each. I definitely get more of a sense of loyalty and commitment from Coach Vigen.
I agree on most of what you wrote, but the only real long term loyalty/commitment to a school or program comes from the fans and most of the players. The vast majority of the coaches (especially in football) these days are looking ahead to the next job and that's okay. I think history has shown us that to be true. That's not to say coaches don't care about the programs they are employed with, just that their loyalty isn't the same as ours and I understand why. Heck, Sprinkle had more connections to MSU than most head coaches would have and I thought he would coach at MSU for at least a decade, but money talks. Binford is a rare exception these days. I hope Vigen sticks around until his sons graduate, but I wouldn't bet a dime that he is still here even a year from now and I wouldn't blame him for jumping for more cash.


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:09 pm

Guys. Vigen left this contract unsigned for basically 2 weeks. Only signed it after Rodgers got the WSU job. Think logically for a bit. He wanted the Wazzu job. Most likely, they didn’t meet his fiscal or timeline demands, but regardless, he’s clearly not going to stay here for long. And that’s fine! You’re not going to get a lifer, and really, that’s probably a good thing.



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by RootinfortheCats » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:20 pm

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Guys. Vigen left this contract unsigned for basically 2 weeks. Only signed it after Rodgers got the WSU job. Think logically for a bit. He wanted the Wazzu job. Most likely, they didn’t meet his fiscal or timeline demands, but regardless, he’s clearly not going to stay here for long. And that’s fine! You’re not going to get a lifer, and really, that’s probably a good thing.
This is likely all true.

This extension is still good thing for the football program and the university as a whole.


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:22 pm

RootinfortheCats wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:20 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:09 pm
Guys. Vigen left this contract unsigned for basically 2 weeks. Only signed it after Rodgers got the WSU job. Think logically for a bit. He wanted the Wazzu job. Most likely, they didn’t meet his fiscal or timeline demands, but regardless, he’s clearly not going to stay here for long. And that’s fine! You’re not going to get a lifer, and really, that’s probably a good thing.
This is likely all true.

This extension is still good thing for the football program and the university as a whole.
Of course the extension is a good thing. Who's saying otherwise?



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by grizzh8r » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:39 pm

imacat wrote:
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We on BN have from fire Vigen during the New Mexico game to overjoyed at him staying. No one could possibly accuse us of being fickle.
ONE poster was saying that. ONE. Paint with a broad brush much? Get real...


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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:54 pm

I feel like Vigen knows his time is up in the fcs, but is the type of guy that will foster a transition to the next head coach, which i think will be an internal hire. He's definitely not going to Jimmy Rogers us, if he was he'd been gone when Fresno State came calling.



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by superbobcat » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:37 pm

I see it as a win win. If someone is willing to now pay the buy out Cats win. If Coach stays Cats win. It is part of the process, an FCS coach who runs a clean program, wins, and is liked by a fan base is going to move on, just a matter of when and best fit.



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Re: Vigen inks new four year contract

Post by MTnative » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:27 pm

GavinDonos wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Vigen is here to stay is waaaay over their skis. This is how the game works. I would love it if Vig is here forever but am grateful that he signed a deal that will allow us some buyout $$$ after he gets hired by a P5 startup/contender when the time comes.

The ideal that the "magical Gallatin Valley" or kids are going to keep him here are folly. There is a thing called the transfer portal. Ask Deion and his sons how it works. And Bozeman really isn't all that as far as quality of life goes compared to other college towns. It's not like Coach V. goes snowboarding / trout fishing that often.

That being said, let's ride this friggin lightning bolt to the end!
Ever been to Manhattan, Kansas? It sucks. Money is one thing, but a community that has a defined core is something I’ve grown to value as I’ve gotten older. Lots of college towns don’t have that.

Bozeman has ALOT of upside compared to other larger college towns. And I don’t think the Deion example is totally fair. That’s a whole different ball of wax fueled by celebrities and NFL level connections.

Vigen is here for the moment, and I think he likes it for more than just the job.



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