In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pmAbsolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pmJust think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pmI don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
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True but tommy missing on that pass would’ve given us a chance at going up. He played one hell of a game though
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D made some plays. NDSU didn't run very well, plus 1 hurt but most if the time Miller checked the play when we went to our wide d line alignment. Worse thing was not enough pressure on 3rd and longs. If we went man to blitz they had an answer. Offense was anemic in first half. Where were some of the pass plays we used in 2nd half.
Convert the 4th down, score then do what we did in 2nd half
they are up most of half up 2 scores. Punt Bison probably don't score. Worst thing happens. Didn't mind decision, didn't like play call.
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Gonna take a while to get over this one. Program is very good and will be really good again next season. But NDSU is the standard and we're not there yet. All the national champs from NAIA on up will be from the mid-west (guessing Ohio State wins FBS). They're just better at it.
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Cats are there. had about 3 plays that if make result is different.BelgradeBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:44 pmGonna take a while to get over this one. Program is very good and will be really good again next season. But NDSU is the standard and we're not there yet. All the national champs from NAIA on up will be from the mid-west (guessing Ohio State wins FBS). They're just better at it.
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Tommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
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I think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pmIn the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pmAbsolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pmJust think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pmI don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
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Makes sense, they rise up, they then begin winning over some of the best FCS recruits and a dynasty is created.MinnesotaBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pmI think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pmIn the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pmAbsolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pmJust think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pmI don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
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The more love and support they get, the better they will become. I know I’ll be donating where I can for the 2025 team.nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pmTommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
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It might have looked quick on the I-AA level, but remember they had multiple D-II Championships already. Winning wasn’t new.MinnesotaBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pmI think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pmIn the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pmAbsolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pmJust think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pmI don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
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If you go on X there are *a lot* of folks with no connection to either team being very critical of some of our coaching decisions tonight. I think Vigen is a great coach who seems to have excellent character and I hope we are able to keep him around for years, but he did not have a good day today. I am sure Tommy is not trying to throw him under the bus, but reality is reality, and he is essentially saying this as well. We were the better team, but we did not have the better game plan or in-game decision-making today.nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pmTommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
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Yes, something was amiss. And I agree that Tommy would never throw coach under the bus but there was something not said in that comment. We'll never know what happened but a huge opportunity was missed and though I do believe the Cats can get back to the Natty, some real soul searching by the coaches needs to happen. This was more on them than the players, imo.Travelingcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:40 pmIf you go on X there are *a lot* of folks with no connection to either team being very critical of some of our coaching decisions tonight. I think Vigen is a great coach who seems to have excellent character and I hope we are able to keep him around for years, but he did not have a good day today. I am sure Tommy is not trying to throw him under the bus, but reality is reality, and he is essentially saying this as well. We were the better team, but we did not have the better game plan or in-game decision-making today.nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pmTommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
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We almost had an amazing comeback tonight, but we didn’t. We almost had an undefeated season, but we didn’t.
What we did have was 60% ownership of a neutral field, whereas 3 years ago it was maybe 35%. The cats struggled in the first half, but came back and made a game of it. Anyone that stayed to the end, walked down on the field, and actually thanked our players know from the tears in their eyes how important this was to them.
My son is only 2, but I want him surrounded by those players ASAP. They all just experienced the worst moment in their year, and to a man everyone expressed their appreciation to the fans. Heartbreaking? Yes. Heart warming? 100%.
Go Cats Go!
What we did have was 60% ownership of a neutral field, whereas 3 years ago it was maybe 35%. The cats struggled in the first half, but came back and made a game of it. Anyone that stayed to the end, walked down on the field, and actually thanked our players know from the tears in their eyes how important this was to them.
My son is only 2, but I want him surrounded by those players ASAP. They all just experienced the worst moment in their year, and to a man everyone expressed their appreciation to the fans. Heartbreaking? Yes. Heart warming? 100%.
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I hear you. This one hurtscat22[2010] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:19 amThis one is gonna hurt for awhile. For now, that is all I have to offer.
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JMU only moved up a few years ago.MinnesotaBobcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pmI think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pmIn the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pmAbsolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pmJust think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pmI don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
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Because Minnesota sucked. NDSU got those FBS recruits, then the winning happened and they just kept getting them.SparkCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pmIn the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?nanacat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pmAbsolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pmJust think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pmI don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Great season Cats! I It was such a pleasure to watch.