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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by GoCats18 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:48 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. You wouldn’t expect an injured player recovering from major surgery to get a ton of money. But then again, who knows?
I’m not going into detail of what I was told, but it isn’t so much about the playing time. It’s more than that. A lady on my plane yesterday (not sure who her son is) was kind of talking about the same issues. Obviously we as fans don’t see the full picture.


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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by MSU01 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:55 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
I get it, there are many reasons I'm sure. But knowing your general will be gone, and the OC at least, can create a lot of uncertainty. I'm guessing Vigen has known for awhile about these transfers, based on his interview after his contract extension, and him stating that transparency is important, and communication. While we as fans may be surprised, frustrated, and even a bit concerned, I'm sure those in the know, knew. That being said, I bet Tommy has been campaigning for guys to stay, just knowing his dedication and commitment to this program.



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by MSU01 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:01 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:55 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
I get it, there are many reasons I'm sure. But knowing your general will be gone, and the OC at least, can create a lot of uncertainty. I'm guessing Vigen has known for awhile about these transfers, based on his interview after his contract extension, and him stating that transparency is important, and communication. While we as fans may be surprised, frustrated, and even a bit concerned, I'm sure those in the know, knew. That being said, I bet Tommy has been campaigning for guys to stay, just knowing his dedication and commitment to this program.
I'm sure there's a lot of uncertainty right now but to me all the transfers so far make sense - two (Moore and Humphrey) who will be going to Power 4 teams on big NIL deals and the other group consisting of players who were somewhat buried on MSU's depth chart and are going elsewhere to try and find more playing time. Julius Davis will be going into his seventh year of college football if he decides to play in 2025, and may have very different priorities than a younger player. To me the concerning thing would be if MSU started to lose a significant number of talented young players who haven't had their opportunity yet to show what they can do.



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:04 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:01 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:55 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
I get it, there are many reasons I'm sure. But knowing your general will be gone, and the OC at least, can create a lot of uncertainty. I'm guessing Vigen has known for awhile about these transfers, based on his interview after his contract extension, and him stating that transparency is important, and communication. While we as fans may be surprised, frustrated, and even a bit concerned, I'm sure those in the know, knew. That being said, I bet Tommy has been campaigning for guys to stay, just knowing his dedication and commitment to this program.
I'm sure there's a lot of uncertainty right now but to me all the transfers so far make sense - two (Moore and Humphrey) who will be going to Power 4 teams on big NIL deals and the other group consisting of players who were somewhat buried on MSU's depth chart and are going elsewhere to try and find more playing time. Julius Davis will be going into his seventh year of college football if he decides to play in 2025, and may have very different priorities than a younger player. To me the concerning thing would be if MSU started to lose a significant number of talented young players who haven't had their opportunity yet to show what they can do.
Yes, I agree with you.



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by KIX » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:06 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:01 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:55 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
I get it, there are many reasons I'm sure. But knowing your general will be gone, and the OC at least, can create a lot of uncertainty. I'm guessing Vigen has known for awhile about these transfers, based on his interview after his contract extension, and him stating that transparency is important, and communication. While we as fans may be surprised, frustrated, and even a bit concerned, I'm sure those in the know, knew. That being said, I bet Tommy has been campaigning for guys to stay, just knowing his dedication and commitment to this program.
I'm sure there's a lot of uncertainty right now but to me all the transfers so far make sense - two (Moore and Humphrey) who will be going to Power 4 teams on big NIL deals and the other group consisting of players who were somewhat buried on MSU's depth chart and are going elsewhere to try and find more playing time. Julius Davis will be going into his seventh year of college football if he decides to play in 2025, and may have very different priorities than a younger player. To me the concerning thing would be if MSU started to lose a significant number of talented young players who haven't had their opportunity yet to show what they can do.
So much for the "Juice Squad". Who's left? Jones and Coon?



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by technoCat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:07 pm

KIX wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:06 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:01 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:55 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
I get it, there are many reasons I'm sure. But knowing your general will be gone, and the OC at least, can create a lot of uncertainty. I'm guessing Vigen has known for awhile about these transfers, based on his interview after his contract extension, and him stating that transparency is important, and communication. While we as fans may be surprised, frustrated, and even a bit concerned, I'm sure those in the know, knew. That being said, I bet Tommy has been campaigning for guys to stay, just knowing his dedication and commitment to this program.
I'm sure there's a lot of uncertainty right now but to me all the transfers so far make sense - two (Moore and Humphrey) who will be going to Power 4 teams on big NIL deals and the other group consisting of players who were somewhat buried on MSU's depth chart and are going elsewhere to try and find more playing time. Julius Davis will be going into his seventh year of college football if he decides to play in 2025, and may have very different priorities than a younger player. To me the concerning thing would be if MSU started to lose a significant number of talented young players who haven't had their opportunity yet to show what they can do.
So much for the "Juice Squad". Who's left? Jones and Coon?
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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:20 pm

I honestly thought playing for the NC, and Vigen staying, would have kept more guys here.



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by bobcatbob » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:22 pm

Rohan Jones? I hope not.



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:29 pm

bobcatbob wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:22 pm
Rohan Jones? I hope not.
Yup, he gone



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Post by 91catAlum » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:38 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:20 pm
I honestly thought playing for the NC, and Vigen staying, would have kept more guys here.
Tough for a 20 year old to turn down life changing money no matter how much he likes his coach.

I hate the current system. But I don't blame the players for taking advantage of it.


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Post by catsrback76 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:42 pm

Lonyatta Alexander is gone. BYE!



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by coloradocat » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:04 pm

Carson Beck is available to the highest bidder. If anyone still needs a sign that college football is broken, here it is.


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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:21 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:04 pm
Carson Beck is available to the highest bidder. If anyone still needs a sign that college football is broken, here it is.
Why?

He’s injured. Georgia wants to move on from him. Because of his injury and play, he’s not lined up to be a good NFL draft pick this year. So now he gets to transfer and probably make more money than he would in the NFL.

I guess I don’t see the problem, other than he’s going to get paid a lot more than he’s likely worth. Or at least, I don’t see evidence of a broken system here.



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Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:25 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
That is weird because I physically talked to his dad hours before the game, at the tailgate, and he said he is coming back. His dad also told me he was looking forward to going to Oregon to watch them. His dad said Julius loves the bobcat fans and said even though there is less than at Wisconsin, the bobcat fan base is much more dedicated and passionate. Those words came directly from his dad. Maybe after the game things changed big time.


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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by Monymony » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:28 pm

Racanelli going to Wake Forest



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Post by TomCat88 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:28 pm

Monymony wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:28 pm
Racanelli going to Wake Forest
When did he announce that?


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Post by PapaG » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:29 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:21 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:04 pm
Carson Beck is available to the highest bidder. If anyone still needs a sign that college football is broken, here it is.
Why?

He’s injured. Georgia wants to move on from him. Because of his injury and play, he’s not lined up to be a good NFL draft pick this year. So now he gets to transfer and probably make more money than he would in the NFL.

I guess I don’t see the problem, other than he’s going to get paid a lot more than he’s likely worth. Or at least, I don’t see evidence of a broken system here.
To me, a broken system would be if a player:

1) has one year left of eligibility
2) is coming off surgery like Beck will likely be
3) isn’t guaranteed to start at his current school
4) would have to transfer FCS because it’s a 2-year rule within FBS; he only has one
5) if he gets any outside compensation, the program is penalized severely and he has to hide it.
6) tough ******, kid.

No way a system like that could ever exist!


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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by Monymony » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:47 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:28 pm
Monymony wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:28 pm
Racanelli going to Wake Forest
When did he announce that?
4 hrs ago



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Re: Any Portal News Yet

Post by BobcatBuiltTexan » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:56 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:45 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:16 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:14 pm
Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.
That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.
How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?
We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.
This part right here. Fans keep thinking everything is about money....I keep saying it... IT ISN'T. There are many reasons a kid leaves...opportunity to play the best competition....a better system for them.... they may thought they could deal with bozeman and find out it just doesn't vibe with them.... maybe a player does well but they just don't get along with the coaches.... maybe they don't get along with the players.... everything isn't about money.



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