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[BelligerentBobcat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

I think the amount of money players are getting to transfer should be public information if you’re playing for a public institution.

Is the wage/salary of every university employee currently public information?

This argument has legal merit, because this is exactly the argument the Northwestern football team used at the outset of the NIL legal proceedings.

If they’re employees of the university, their compensation should be made public information. And I think somewhere that’s probably a legal proceeding that will be pursued.

Except the government institution isn't the one paying them NIL (by design). I'm sure the team/university would have no problem disclosing the value of the scholarships.

Competitive process

Any time public money is involved in anything, then it has to be made public. That's a certainty. I'm not sure if that applies to funds that flow into a public entity, but I'm pretty it does. For instance, if a state office puts funds into a program and then someone else (Private) puts money into that program, then those monies are open to the same public access as the public monies. So, I think (not sure) that if athletes at a public institution like a public university receive money for playing a sport, then it should be public. Perhaps, it has been set up in a way that keeps everything separate. That doesn't seem proper to me.

Anyway, my point is to create fairness. For instance, if I bid on a project and I don't get the bid, I want to know what the other companies bid, so that I know what I'm up against. I need to know where I'm over bidding in order to fix that area and become competitive. This isn't just good for me, but also the entity putting the job out to bid.

They aren’t getting paid to play (technically). They’re getting paid for advertising and the like. “Show up to this event and you get $1000. Tweet about this product and you get $500.” Etc, etc.

Technically true maybe, but in reality, not true. Just look at the "collectives" which pay the players regardless of whether their name or face is being used anywhere.
Not gonna name specific guys but it's not hard to look at the list of starters and find guys who haven't really done ads or promos but who are certainly getting money.
It's pay for play.

Yeah I understand that. I’m just explaining how this isn’t public money and doesn’t need to be public knowledge.

[Cataholic]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

[BelligerentBobcat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Agree on the 1st, disagree on the 2nd.

[Cataholic]

Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.

That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.

How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?

We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.

That is weird because I physically talked to his dad hours before the game, at the tailgate, and he said he is coming back. His dad also told me he was looking forward to going to Oregon to watch them. His dad said Julius loves the bobcat fans and said even though there is less than at Wisconsin, the bobcat fan base is much more dedicated and passionate. Those words came directly from his dad. Maybe after the game things changed big time.

Julius is not going anywhere. He wants to stay. No reason to believe anything GoCats18 ever says.

[Cataholic]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Agree on the 1st, disagree on the 2nd.

Crazy times, but the economist in me says zero chance. Look at our team. Tommy clearly was the top marketing option on the number one team in FCS with a rabid fan base. If we are able to hand out $50,000 per year in NIL, do you really think we are giving 10% to one guy? Many of our assistants don’t make $50,000. We couldn’t raise enough money to fund cost of living stipend when that was a thing.

[onceacat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Yeah, some of these numbers are pretty hard to believe. Actual data is pretty scarce, but this was a decent read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ting-paid/

[Cataholic]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Yeah, some of these numbers are pretty hard to believe. Actual data is pretty scarce, but this was a decent read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ting-paid/

Yes, but all of these are P4 numbers. No way a G5 or FCS school can approach these levels.

[CodyCat]

I have a hard time thinking Moore is going to get seven figures. Ohio States team this year is 22 Mil in NIL. Why would one player outside of a QB get 1/22 of that?

[BigBruceBaker]

I have a hard time thinking Moore is going to get seven figures. Ohio States team this year is 22 Mil in NIL. Why would one player outside of a QB get 1/22 of that?

As far as I know he is getting $50 - $100k.

[KIX]

Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.

That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.

How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?

We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.

That is weird because I physically talked to his dad hours before the game, at the tailgate, and he said he is coming back. His dad also told me he was looking forward to going to Oregon to watch them. His dad said Julius loves the bobcat fans and said even though there is less than at Wisconsin, the bobcat fan base is much more dedicated and passionate. Those words came directly from his dad. Maybe after the game things changed big time.

Julius is not going anywhere. He wants to stay. No reason to believe anything GoCats18 ever says.

Keeping Julius healthy will be a major task.

[91catAlum]

I have a hard time thinking Moore is going to get seven figures. Ohio States team this year is 22 Mil in NIL. Why would one player outside of a QB get 1/22 of that?

I heard it was 500k. Sam Herder said it was 250k about a week before the natty. None of us truly know the exact amount.
Either way, a left tackle is a very important position.

[onceacat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Yeah, some of these numbers are pretty hard to believe. Actual data is pretty scarce, but this was a decent read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ting-paid/

Yes, but all of these are P4 numbers. No way a G5 or FCS school can approach these levels.

Sort of my point. Theres at least an order of magnitude difference from P4 to FCS, maybe more. If the top handful of linemen in P4 are making around $1m, it's hard to fathom any FCS linemen at $100k, let alone an entire line at double that.

But obviously its really tough to pin down.

[LTown Cat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Yeah, some of these numbers are pretty hard to believe. Actual data is pretty scarce, but this was a decent read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ting-paid/

Yes, but all of these are P4 numbers. No way a G5 or FCS school can approach these levels.

Sort of my point. Theres at least an order of magnitude difference from P4 to FCS, maybe more. If the top handful of linemen in P4 are making around $1m, it's hard to fathom any FCS linemen at $100k, let alone an entire line at double that.

But obviously its really tough to pin down.

Just read an article about Boise State. Their entire NIL budget is $2 million this year, up from $1.6 last year. No way NDSU is on par with them--or even close.

[LTown Cat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Yeah, some of these numbers are pretty hard to believe. Actual data is pretty scarce, but this was a decent read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ting-paid/

Yes, but all of these are P4 numbers. No way a G5 or FCS school can approach these levels.

Sort of my point. Theres at least an order of magnitude difference from P4 to FCS, maybe more. If the top handful of linemen in P4 are making around $1m, it's hard to fathom any FCS linemen at $100k, let alone an entire line at double that.

But obviously its really tough to pin down.

Just read an article about Boise State. Their entire NIL budget is $2 million this year, up from $1.6 last year. No way NDSU is on par with them--or even close.

Here is the article:

https://clutchpoints.com/oregon-footbal ... tate-coach

[BelligerentBobcat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Agree on the 1st, disagree on the 2nd.

Crazy times, but the economist in me says zero chance. Look at our team. Tommy clearly was the top marketing option on the number one team in FCS with a rabid fan base. If we are able to hand out $50,000 per year in NIL, do you really think we are giving 10% to one guy? Many of our assistants don’t make $50,000. We couldn’t raise enough money to fund cost of living stipend when that was a thing.

NDSU can fund a significant amount more money than we can.

[kwcat]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Agree on the 1st, disagree on the 2nd.

Crazy times, but the economist in me says zero chance. Look at our team. Tommy clearly was the top marketing option on the number one team in FCS with a rabid fan base. If we are able to hand out $50,000 per year in NIL, do you really think we are giving 10% to one guy? Many of our assistants don’t make $50,000. We couldn’t raise enough money to fund cost of living stipend when that was a thing.

NDSU can fund a significant amount more money than we can.

And add FCOA to that as well.

[4KornerKat]

Somewhat surprising:

[nanacat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

[4KornerKat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

I think most folks thought he'd transfer out for money.

[nanacat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

I think most folks thought he'd transfer out for money.

Well sure. But his stock will only improve if they have another winning season.