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[technoCat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

I think most folks thought he'd transfer out for money.

Could have sworn he was a junior. Figured he'd head to the league.

[4KornerKat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

I think most folks thought he'd transfer out for money.

Could have sworn he was a junior. Figured he'd head to the league.

He was listed as a Junior, but in today's NCAA who knows what that means for eligibility. Had negligible stats the last 2 years.

[nanacat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

I think most folks thought he'd transfer out for money.

Could have sworn he was a junior. Figured he'd head to the league.

He was listed as a Junior, but in today's NCAA who knows what that means for eligibility. Had negligible stats the last 2 years.

My mistake. I thought the announcers said he was a sophomore. Must have heard wrong.

[4KornerKat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

I think most folks thought he'd transfer out for money.

Could have sworn he was a junior. Figured he'd head to the league.

He was listed as a Junior, but in today's NCAA who knows what that means for eligibility. Had negligible stats the last 2 years.

My mistake. I thought the announcers said he was a sophomore. Must have heard wrong.

It looks like he redshirted in 2021 and then participated" in 2022 and 2023, with 1 catch for 7 yards in 23. He did just graduate for what that's worth.

[kwcat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

[TomCat88]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Yes, NDSU is on another level. If it was going to have to have a big exodus it would’ve happened last year. They had to have comparable money to get them to stay.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

[coloradocat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Their culture is winning championships and the expectation of winning every year. Nobody else has that, even SDSU, because nobody else has had a run like they have. We can pour more resources into the program and NIL but at the end of the day you have to have sustained ultimate success, not just a one- or two-off year, to become 99% immune to the portal. Guys don't leave there because they like winning championships, not just winning regular season and playoff games. I don't think another team will ever have that. We don't need to have that culture to win to be have to understand that they have it and it's a huge hurdle to overcome.

[TomCat88]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

I don't exactly think NDSU is better than us on the field, but we're certainly not on par with them. Can't say that until we actually beat them, even once.

[CodyCat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

I'd sure like to see that break down. Why do you think the alumni base is bigger at MSU? What makes an alumni base better? And what would MSU be leaving in the dust?

MSU got beat after a blocked extra point. And you could say, hung in there last Monday. But, that was the best MSU team in the modern era by a long shot. Maybe my wounds are still gushing blood, but I dont see MSU ever beating NDSU, ever. Vigen got beat by a first year head coach. Vigen and his team looked lost and unprepared for the moment in the first half. That is mind blowing and unacceptable. If the 2024 Cats cant beat NDSU, then I dont see it being possible until NDSU takes about 10 steps backwards, which isnt going to happen.

[AFCAT]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

I don't exactly think NDSU is better than us on the field, but we're certainly not on par with them. Can't say that until we actually beat them, even once.

Yeah, MSU really is really just getting started in investing in football compared to NDSU and SDSU. I remember after 1984, MSU actually cut their athletic budget and it took forever to get funding back. It wasn't until the late 90s that we got the West grandstand built. The QB club was instrumental in getting outside money into the football program in the early 2000s to help end the streak. It's only been in the past ten - fifteen years that we have really gotten started on other infrastructure improvements. NIL is the next big battlefield and the Cats have made huge strides there but it appears it will take more and more and more to compete even at this level. The trend points up though and the future is bright.

[TomCat88]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

I'd sure like to see that break down. Why do you think the alumni base is bigger at MSU? What makes an alumni base better? And what would MSU be leaving in the dust?

MSU got beat after a blocked extra point. And you could say, hung in there last Monday. But, that was the best MSU team in the modern era by a long shot. Maybe my wounds are still gushing blood, but I dont see MSU ever beating NDSU, ever. Vigen got beat by a first year head coach. Vigen and his team looked lost and unprepared for the moment in the first half. That is mind blowing and unacceptable. If the 2024 Cats cant beat NDSU, then I dont see it being possible until NDSU takes about 10 steps backwards, which isnt going to happen.

MSU has an enrollment of 17,000 to their 12,000. MSU has had from 3,000 to 5,000 more students per year than they have had for the past 20 years.
Bigger is better. MSU has more multi millionaires in its alumni base and more people pumping money into the school. If MSU was on a championship run the fan turnout would leave ndsus in the dust.
It’s only a matter of time.

Your thoughts are the same people had in the mid-10s and the 90s about UM. Except in that case msu was 0-11 in 2000.

[CodyCat]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

I'd sure like to see that break down. Why do you think the alumni base is bigger at MSU? What makes an alumni base better? And what would MSU be leaving in the dust?

MSU got beat after a blocked extra point. And you could say, hung in there last Monday. But, that was the best MSU team in the modern era by a long shot. Maybe my wounds are still gushing blood, but I dont see MSU ever beating NDSU, ever. Vigen got beat by a first year head coach. Vigen and his team looked lost and unprepared for the moment in the first half. That is mind blowing and unacceptable. If the 2024 Cats cant beat NDSU, then I dont see it being possible until NDSU takes about 10 steps backwards, which isnt going to happen.

MSU has an enrollment of 17,000 to their 12,000. MSU has had from 3,000 to 5,000 more students per year than they have had for the past 20 years.
Bigger is better. MSU has more multi millionaires in its alumni base and more people pumping money into the school. If MSU was on a championship run the fan turnout would leave ndsus in the dust.

How are endowments calculated and is that a good reflection on value of an alumni base? And if it is, what are the endowments for each school?

[TomCat88]

Somewhat surprising:

Why is that surprising? Isn't he just a sophomore? I guess with Miller leaving he could have bailed but I'm sure he's all about getting another trophy next year. Winning is contagious.

This may not be a popular opinion, but North Dakota State football culture is still different than ours. We still have our core, which is good and strong and getting better. But not everybody has bought in long-term. To be fair, I don’t know what the FOCA and additional NIL money that North Dakota state has, I assume it’s more than what we’ve got, but that is somewhat of a part of it as well.
Colter had mentioned whether or not somebody had amortized, if you will, the long-term cost to benefit analysis Of staying put in the program that developed you and gave you opportunities, and getting your degree rather than the gamble of some immediate return increase in NIL money and possible exposure.
As Alex Singleton stated, as of sophomore, he would’ve taken that money, not being from the state of Montana. But he also said some things have probably got to change.
Bryce Lance also might be a beneficiary of having a brother playing pro football, reducing the need for immediate money.

Funny enough, I was just talking about similar things with my BIL. I’ll try to paraphrase and keep it short.

NDSU has a lot more money than we do to play with. They could compete with the MWC right now, no problem at all.

Players at NDSU have a certainty of competing for, and likely winning a championship. We’re just barely getting to that point, and it’s yet to be seen if we can continue it (I believe we can).

NDSU has a better NFL track record than the majority of FBS schools around them. That absolutely matters.

I really believe NDSU’s biggest advantage is that they’re a big fish in a relatively big pond. They’re essentially in Minnesota, and any midwest player that doesn’t get a Big 10/12 offer is going to likely prefer to go to NDSU than Bowling Green or Ball State. And, the culture of the Midwest and the players there is just different than the PNW where we recruit heavily. It’s a huge advantage they have in that their recruiting area is bigger and better than ours.

It may be a big advantage but MSU is on a par with NDSU on the field. The Bobcats are in some ways better off than ndsu. The alumni base is bigger and better. I think if MSU’s fan base had a run like ndsu’s on, it would leave ndsu’s in the dust. The athletic complex going up here is better in most ways.

I'd sure like to see that break down. Why do you think the alumni base is bigger at MSU? What makes an alumni base better? And what would MSU be leaving in the dust?

MSU got beat after a blocked extra point. And you could say, hung in there last Monday. But, that was the best MSU team in the modern era by a long shot. Maybe my wounds are still gushing blood, but I dont see MSU ever beating NDSU, ever. Vigen got beat by a first year head coach. Vigen and his team looked lost and unprepared for the moment in the first half. That is mind blowing and unacceptable. If the 2024 Cats cant beat NDSU, then I dont see it being possible until NDSU takes about 10 steps backwards, which isnt going to happen.

MSU has an enrollment of 17,000 to their 12,000. MSU has had from 3,000 to 5,000 more students per year than they have had for the past 20 years.
Bigger is better. MSU has more multi millionaires in its alumni base and more people pumping money into the school. If MSU was on a championship run the fan turnout would leave ndsus in the dust.

How are endowments calculated and is that a good reflection on value of an alumni base? And if it is, what are the endowments for each school?

$260 million to $140 million. 264-142 actually.

[jaquelethargic]

This is all heresy but what I’ve heard from folks… Starting line for NDSU gets 200k/yr each, so in the grand scheme of things, Rohan getting 300-500k isn’t shocking but also depending on him making the roster and depth chart. Connor’s offer is supposedly higher than what he’d make as a first rounder nfl pick outside of top 15 or so, but well into 7 figures at Ohio st. Same as above applies.

What is your source? There is virtually no way NDSU is paying anything close to $200,000 each. Less than 1% chance any FCS NIL is paying anything close to $50,000 for any player.

Yeah, some of these numbers are pretty hard to believe. Actual data is pretty scarce, but this was a decent read.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ting-paid/

Yes, but all of these are P4 numbers. No way a G5 or FCS school can approach these levels.

Sort of my point. Theres at least an order of magnitude difference from P4 to FCS, maybe more. If the top handful of linemen in P4 are making around $1m, it's hard to fathom any FCS linemen at $100k, let alone an entire line at double that.

But obviously its really tough to pin down.

Just read an article about Boise State. Their entire NIL budget is $2 million this year, up from $1.6 last year. No way NDSU is on par with them--or even close.

I don’t know anything about NIL on the cats but I know with certainty there is a player that gets $5k a month and it’s no one you’d guess. The thing about NIL is that it can come from anywhere, not just a collective. So any official reporting is likely low. $2 mil for BSU is likely for one source. There are many. I’d argue NDSU has a large number of varied sources developed over many years to get comp for players.

[GoCats18]

Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.

That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.

How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?

We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.

That is weird because I physically talked to his dad hours before the game, at the tailgate, and he said he is coming back. His dad also told me he was looking forward to going to Oregon to watch them. His dad said Julius loves the bobcat fans and said even though there is less than at Wisconsin, the bobcat fan base is much more dedicated and passionate. Those words came directly from his dad. Maybe after the game things changed big time.

Julius is not going anywhere. He wants to stay. No reason to believe anything GoCats18 ever says.

I’m beyond excited he is staying. The conversation this person had was with his Dad the day after the game. I am sure emotions played a large part in the conversation. This is why I didn’t say that he was 100% in the portal, but that he most likely could be making a decision to leave. To me, this makes Scottre leaving not as hurtful as it seems. Davis, Jones, Coon and a couple of the others means we don’t have much to worry about back there.

[GoldstoneCat]

Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.

That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.

How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?

We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.

That is weird because I physically talked to his dad hours before the game, at the tailgate, and he said he is coming back. His dad also told me he was looking forward to going to Oregon to watch them. His dad said Julius loves the bobcat fans and said even though there is less than at Wisconsin, the bobcat fan base is much more dedicated and passionate. Those words came directly from his dad. Maybe after the game things changed big time.

Julius is not going anywhere. He wants to stay. No reason to believe anything GoCats18 ever says.

I’m beyond excited he is staying. The conversation this person had was with his Dad the day after the game. I am sure emotions played a large part in the conversation. This is why I didn’t say that he was 100% in the portal, but that he most likely could be making a decision to leave. To me, this makes Scottre leaving not as hurtful as it seems. Davis, Jones, Coon and a couple of the others means we don’t have much to worry about back there.

If Davis is healthy we're better at rb next year than this year.

[CatBlitz]

Per my source, Davis is most likely entering the portal.

That would be a bummer. Although, playing injured the last two years, it’s surprising if he can get it any better than here.

How much of the transferring out is not based on $$ at all, but the "Tommy Effect" as in, he's leaving and there's a big question mark as to who will replace him? He was such a phenomenal leader that so many looked up to and wanted to play with/for. With losing him, along with coaches Walker and Johnson, potentially, is there uncertainty among the team?

We'll never know but I don't think it's worth reading too much into it. These players are human beings and there are a wide variety of reasons why each one might choose to stay or leave. Due to the Covid year a lot of these guys are also graduating while they still have athletic eligibility remaining, which might factor in as well from an academic perspective.

That is weird because I physically talked to his dad hours before the game, at the tailgate, and he said he is coming back. His dad also told me he was looking forward to going to Oregon to watch them. His dad said Julius loves the bobcat fans and said even though there is less than at Wisconsin, the bobcat fan base is much more dedicated and passionate. Those words came directly from his dad. Maybe after the game things changed big time.

Julius is not going anywhere. He wants to stay. No reason to believe anything GoCats18 ever says.

I’m beyond excited he is staying. The conversation this person had was with his Dad the day after the game. I am sure emotions played a large part in the conversation. This is why I didn’t say that he was 100% in the portal, but that he most likely could be making a decision to leave. To me, this makes Scottre leaving not as hurtful as it seems. Davis, Jones, Coon and a couple of the others means we don’t have much to worry about back there.

If Davis is healthy we're better at rb next year than this year.

If Davis is healthy, we will be really good at RB.
But I think a lot of us are underselling just how good of a RB Scottre actually is. I don't think we are necessarily "better" without our best RB.

[Counter Assault]

So with Powdrell gone, what is our starter body count at this point?