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[nanacat]

So today is the last day. Would love to see more "Staying" posts today rather than more transfers. Of course there's another portal opening in the spring but I for one am ready for a break from more jumping ship. Also would love to see if the Cats are going to bring in any new guys after the exits. Do we know if any offers have even been made yet? I'm not on X so have no idea.

One thing to keep in mind is that by my count, MSU has lost 26 players from the 2024 team to either graduation or the portal so far...but also signed an incoming recruiting class of 26 high school players in December. So if anyone is expecting a high number of transfers right now I think that's unrealistic given the number of roster spots available. I wouldn't expect more than a couple incoming transfers this winter, then of course there will be additional movement in the Spring portal window and over the summer. Ultimately the core of next year's team is already in place, we just haven't seen a lot of them play as part of the first team units yet. And they've got a full off-season to continue their development before we do!

That and Spring semester is only days away. If a portal transfer doesn't commit in the next couple of days, they wouldn't even be on the roster until Summer.

Sure, good point!

[nanacat]

Been anxious today waiting to hear more bad news. Or maybe some good news. So far neither. Maybe that's good.

[onceacat]

No one, just examples of the different types of transfers. If you are able to transfer to FBS Ohio State or Michigan and start, it will absolutely increase your draft stock. If you transfer to Miami (Ohio) for NIL money, I'm not sure it does anything for your draft stock.

Probably comparing what I think will happen with Moore vs. Rohan or Scottre more than anythign than the actual school they end up at.

Rohan and Scottre have ACC, SEC, and Big 10/12 offers. They’re going to go to legitimately good schools. These guys aren’t leaving us to go to mid level P5 schools. They’re getting big offers.

I guess it depends on what you think of them and where they land. I personally think Moore has a chance to start and play at Ohio State/Michigan.

I suppose Rohan and Scottre could see some decent playing time at the bottom of the ACC/Big 12, but I doubt either is a number 1 option.

If the goal is the bag of NIL money, they will get it. If the goal is NFL opportunity, I'm not sure they are putting themselves in a better position, but we'll see where they land. I don't know that being RB2 or 3 or TE 2 or 3 at North Carolina would be better than a season mirroring or improving their 2024 stats at MSU. For their sake, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's pretty well established that with a few exceptions (Skattebo, Moore, et al) transferring has little to do with NFL prospects. Obviously, all other things being equal, the higher level you play at, the better your draft position. But of course, thats complicated by things like the level of competition, risk of injury, getting buried on the depth chart, etc.

But people forget that all these guys are super competitive. Most of these guys want to get coached by, play with, and be around the top levels of competition. And obviously, even relatively small NIL contracts are a huge deal to 20 year olds.

But the vast majority of guys in the transfer portal arent getting huge NIL deals, they aren't getting NFL looks of any sort...they are just looking for someplace where the grass might be greener.

[nanacat]

No one, just examples of the different types of transfers. If you are able to transfer to FBS Ohio State or Michigan and start, it will absolutely increase your draft stock. If you transfer to Miami (Ohio) for NIL money, I'm not sure it does anything for your draft stock.

Probably comparing what I think will happen with Moore vs. Rohan or Scottre more than anythign than the actual school they end up at.

Rohan and Scottre have ACC, SEC, and Big 10/12 offers. They’re going to go to legitimately good schools. These guys aren’t leaving us to go to mid level P5 schools. They’re getting big offers.

I guess it depends on what you think of them and where they land. I personally think Moore has a chance to start and play at Ohio State/Michigan.

I suppose Rohan and Scottre could see some decent playing time at the bottom of the ACC/Big 12, but I doubt either is a number 1 option.

If the goal is the bag of NIL money, they will get it. If the goal is NFL opportunity, I'm not sure they are putting themselves in a better position, but we'll see where they land. I don't know that being RB2 or 3 or TE 2 or 3 at North Carolina would be better than a season mirroring or improving their 2024 stats at MSU. For their sake, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's pretty well established that with a few exceptions (Skattebo, Moore, et al) transferring has little to do with NFL prospects. Obviously, all other things being equal, the higher level you play at, the better your draft position. But of course, thats complicated by things like the level of competition, risk of injury, getting buried on the depth chart, etc.

But people forget that all these guys are super competitive. Most of these guys want to get coached by, play with, and be around the top levels of competition. And obviously, even relatively small NIL contracts are a huge deal to 20 year olds.

But the vast majority of guys in the transfer portal arent getting huge NIL deals, they aren't getting NFL looks of any sort...they are just looking for someplace where the grass might be greener.

And how many end up by going nowhere?

[AFCAT]

So much for the Ohio rumor.

[VimSince03]

So much for the Ohio rumor.

Oh dang...he was planning on Ohio State for a while and the visit was lined up but he canceled earlier today. Wasn't a rumor.
Obviously Michigan State matched the money and locked it up before that visit took place. Good luck to Conner.

His Oline coach will be Jim Michalczik (former MSU oline coach) and Cole Moore is the GM of the team. Jonathan Smith is the head coach at MSU so a lot of Big Sky ties.

[nanacat]

Cole Moore? Any relation to Conner?

[AFCAT]

Cole Moore? Any relation to Conner?

Cole Moore used to play and work on the staff at MSU. Not related to Conner, at least a close relation.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/football/ ... -moore/565

[nanacat]

Cole Moore? Any relation to Conner?

Cole Moore used to be at MSU. Not related to Conner, at least a close relation.

I knew he had been. Just didn't recall if they were related. Thanks!

[onceacat]

No one, just examples of the different types of transfers. If you are able to transfer to FBS Ohio State or Michigan and start, it will absolutely increase your draft stock. If you transfer to Miami (Ohio) for NIL money, I'm not sure it does anything for your draft stock.

Probably comparing what I think will happen with Moore vs. Rohan or Scottre more than anythign than the actual school they end up at.

Rohan and Scottre have ACC, SEC, and Big 10/12 offers. They’re going to go to legitimately good schools. These guys aren’t leaving us to go to mid level P5 schools. They’re getting big offers.

I guess it depends on what you think of them and where they land. I personally think Moore has a chance to start and play at Ohio State/Michigan.

I suppose Rohan and Scottre could see some decent playing time at the bottom of the ACC/Big 12, but I doubt either is a number 1 option.

If the goal is the bag of NIL money, they will get it. If the goal is NFL opportunity, I'm not sure they are putting themselves in a better position, but we'll see where they land. I don't know that being RB2 or 3 or TE 2 or 3 at North Carolina would be better than a season mirroring or improving their 2024 stats at MSU. For their sake, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's pretty well established that with a few exceptions (Skattebo, Moore, et al) transferring has little to do with NFL prospects. Obviously, all other things being equal, the higher level you play at, the better your draft position. But of course, thats complicated by things like the level of competition, risk of injury, getting buried on the depth chart, etc.

But people forget that all these guys are super competitive. Most of these guys want to get coached by, play with, and be around the top levels of competition. And obviously, even relatively small NIL contracts are a huge deal to 20 year olds.

But the vast majority of guys in the transfer portal arent getting huge NIL deals, they aren't getting NFL looks of any sort...they are just looking for someplace where the grass might be greener.

And how many end up by going nowhere?

About half. I wonder if anyone has numbers to compare this with the pre-transfer era?

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2022/4/25/t ... rends.aspx

[MSU01]

No one, just examples of the different types of transfers. If you are able to transfer to FBS Ohio State or Michigan and start, it will absolutely increase your draft stock. If you transfer to Miami (Ohio) for NIL money, I'm not sure it does anything for your draft stock.

Probably comparing what I think will happen with Moore vs. Rohan or Scottre more than anythign than the actual school they end up at.

Rohan and Scottre have ACC, SEC, and Big 10/12 offers. They’re going to go to legitimately good schools. These guys aren’t leaving us to go to mid level P5 schools. They’re getting big offers.

I guess it depends on what you think of them and where they land. I personally think Moore has a chance to start and play at Ohio State/Michigan.

I suppose Rohan and Scottre could see some decent playing time at the bottom of the ACC/Big 12, but I doubt either is a number 1 option.

If the goal is the bag of NIL money, they will get it. If the goal is NFL opportunity, I'm not sure they are putting themselves in a better position, but we'll see where they land. I don't know that being RB2 or 3 or TE 2 or 3 at North Carolina would be better than a season mirroring or improving their 2024 stats at MSU. For their sake, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's pretty well established that with a few exceptions (Skattebo, Moore, et al) transferring has little to do with NFL prospects. Obviously, all other things being equal, the higher level you play at, the better your draft position. But of course, thats complicated by things like the level of competition, risk of injury, getting buried on the depth chart, etc.

But people forget that all these guys are super competitive. Most of these guys want to get coached by, play with, and be around the top levels of competition. And obviously, even relatively small NIL contracts are a huge deal to 20 year olds.

But the vast majority of guys in the transfer portal arent getting huge NIL deals, they aren't getting NFL looks of any sort...they are just looking for someplace where the grass might be greener.

And how many end up by going nowhere?

About half. I wonder if anyone has numbers to compare this with the pre-transfer era?

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2022/4/25/t ... rends.aspx

I don't think it's really possible to make a meaningful comparison since nothing even remotely like the Portal existed back then.

[nanacat]

No one, just examples of the different types of transfers. If you are able to transfer to FBS Ohio State or Michigan and start, it will absolutely increase your draft stock. If you transfer to Miami (Ohio) for NIL money, I'm not sure it does anything for your draft stock.

Probably comparing what I think will happen with Moore vs. Rohan or Scottre more than anythign than the actual school they end up at.

Rohan and Scottre have ACC, SEC, and Big 10/12 offers. They’re going to go to legitimately good schools. These guys aren’t leaving us to go to mid level P5 schools. They’re getting big offers.

I guess it depends on what you think of them and where they land. I personally think Moore has a chance to start and play at Ohio State/Michigan.

I suppose Rohan and Scottre could see some decent playing time at the bottom of the ACC/Big 12, but I doubt either is a number 1 option.

If the goal is the bag of NIL money, they will get it. If the goal is NFL opportunity, I'm not sure they are putting themselves in a better position, but we'll see where they land. I don't know that being RB2 or 3 or TE 2 or 3 at North Carolina would be better than a season mirroring or improving their 2024 stats at MSU. For their sake, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's pretty well established that with a few exceptions (Skattebo, Moore, et al) transferring has little to do with NFL prospects. Obviously, all other things being equal, the higher level you play at, the better your draft position. But of course, thats complicated by things like the level of competition, risk of injury, getting buried on the depth chart, etc.

But people forget that all these guys are super competitive. Most of these guys want to get coached by, play with, and be around the top levels of competition. And obviously, even relatively small NIL contracts are a huge deal to 20 year olds.

But the vast majority of guys in the transfer portal arent getting huge NIL deals, they aren't getting NFL looks of any sort...they are just looking for someplace where the grass might be greener.

And how many end up by going nowhere?

About half. I wonder if anyone has numbers to compare this with the pre-transfer era?

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2022/4/25/t ... rends.aspx

Interesting

[onceacat]

No one, just examples of the different types of transfers. If you are able to transfer to FBS Ohio State or Michigan and start, it will absolutely increase your draft stock. If you transfer to Miami (Ohio) for NIL money, I'm not sure it does anything for your draft stock.

Probably comparing what I think will happen with Moore vs. Rohan or Scottre more than anythign than the actual school they end up at.

Rohan and Scottre have ACC, SEC, and Big 10/12 offers. They’re going to go to legitimately good schools. These guys aren’t leaving us to go to mid level P5 schools. They’re getting big offers.

I guess it depends on what you think of them and where they land. I personally think Moore has a chance to start and play at Ohio State/Michigan.

I suppose Rohan and Scottre could see some decent playing time at the bottom of the ACC/Big 12, but I doubt either is a number 1 option.

If the goal is the bag of NIL money, they will get it. If the goal is NFL opportunity, I'm not sure they are putting themselves in a better position, but we'll see where they land. I don't know that being RB2 or 3 or TE 2 or 3 at North Carolina would be better than a season mirroring or improving their 2024 stats at MSU. For their sake, I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's pretty well established that with a few exceptions (Skattebo, Moore, et al) transferring has little to do with NFL prospects. Obviously, all other things being equal, the higher level you play at, the better your draft position. But of course, thats complicated by things like the level of competition, risk of injury, getting buried on the depth chart, etc.

But people forget that all these guys are super competitive. Most of these guys want to get coached by, play with, and be around the top levels of competition. And obviously, even relatively small NIL contracts are a huge deal to 20 year olds.

But the vast majority of guys in the transfer portal arent getting huge NIL deals, they aren't getting NFL looks of any sort...they are just looking for someplace where the grass might be greener.

And how many end up by going nowhere?

About half. I wonder if anyone has numbers to compare this with the pre-transfer era?

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2022/4/25/t ... rends.aspx

I don't think it's really possible to make a meaningful comparison since nothing even remotely like the Portal existed back then.

I think its a lot less about the Portal and a lot more about the specifics of NIL money in Football & BB PLUS the change in the rule requiring transfers to sit out.

The link allows you to check every single sport. Lots of transfers in most sports...most of them never find a new team.

[coloradocat]

So today is the last day. Would love to see more "Staying" posts today rather than more transfers. Of course there's another portal opening in the spring but I for one am ready for a break from more jumping ship. Also would love to see if the Cats are going to bring in any new guys after the exits. Do we know if any offers have even been made yet? I'm not on X so have no idea.

One thing to keep in mind is that by my count, MSU has lost 26 players from the 2024 team to either graduation or the portal so far...but also signed an incoming recruiting class of 26 high school players in December. So if anyone is expecting a high number of transfers right now I think that's unrealistic given the number of roster spots available. I wouldn't expect more than a couple incoming transfers this winter, then of course there will be additional movement in the Spring portal window and over the summer. Ultimately the core of next year's team is already in place, we just haven't seen a lot of them play as part of the first team units yet. And they've got a full off-season to continue their development before we do!

That and Spring semester is only days away. If a portal transfer doesn't commit in the next couple of days, they wouldn't even be on the roster until Summer.

I wonder if being down not only two very important coaches but two recruiters will end up hurting us this round. I'd imagine it's a little hard to commit to the team as an offensive player if you don't know who your OC is going to be. At this point maybe all our transfers come in after spring ball?

[2-B-Champ]

So much for the Ohio rumor.

Oh dang...he was planning on Ohio State for a while and the visit was lined up but he canceled earlier today. Wasn't a rumor.
Obviously Michigan State matched the money and locked it up before that visit took place. Good luck to Conner.

His Oline coach will be Jim Michalczik (former MSU oline coach) and Cole Moore is the GM of the team. Jonathan Smith is the head coach at MSU so a lot of Big Sky ties.

Michigan State didn't throw hundreds of thousands dollars at him they threw millions. No wonder he didn't go to Texas to watch the game on Friday.

[BelgradeBobcat]

So much for the Ohio rumor.

Oh dang...he was planning on Ohio State for a while and the visit was lined up but he canceled earlier today. Wasn't a rumor.
Obviously Michigan State matched the money and locked it up before that visit took place. Good luck to Conner.

His Oline coach will be Jim Michalczik (former MSU oline coach) and Cole Moore is the GM of the team. Jonathan Smith is the head coach at MSU so a lot of Big Sky ties.

Michigan State didn't throw hundreds of thousands dollars at him they threw millions. No wonder he didn't go to Texas to watch the game on Friday.

He would have been Ohio State's smallest o-lineman by 20 pounds.

[spring creek cat]

I am actually good with coaching staff not doing much in this round of the portal. Lack of recruiting time and the roster uncertainty until after the championship definitely puts us at a disadvantage. I also think by not bringing in a bunch of transfers right will show the players currently on the roster that the coaches believe in them and have confidence in the future. Yes there will be changes and transfers but maybe give these young guys a chance and have the coaches believe in their recruiting and development skills!! Those have served the program pretty well up to this point! Go Cats!!!

[RobertCats]

[mslacatfan]

#gods plan
#go be great
#always a cat
#1,000% committed!

[AFCAT]

I'm no longer perplexed at some of these transfers now, I'm just laughing. Rock on, guys!