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Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:15 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
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Now the question becomes, what's going on with the program? Clearly something is happening within the program, and that something isn't positive.
Oh please. This isn't hard you guys. These kids are getting floated huge offers from 3rd parties and they don't want to turn down the potential of going to the Power 4 and getting paid handsomely for it. Moore, Humphrey, Jones, Powdrell, and now potentially Johnson and Polidore are all going to get paid. Dru has a shot at making a lot of money and he likely found out how much in the past 5 days.

As for guys like Alexander, thats a tale as old as time with WRs.

Is this a problem with the program? No...but it's something we better be recruiting for every year. Holes will have to be filled through developing high schoolers (which we are obviously very good at) or finding Rohan's every year (mercenaries). It certainly doesn't feel good but we don't have the collective or FCOA that the Bison have. Adapt or die I suppose.
Sorry, but Powdrell, Johnson, and I'd argue even Polidore are not P4 players. Anybody telling them otherwise is feeding them BS. Is making a bunch of money to be a back up more important than playing? I remember when transfers transfered because they didn't get to play. Now transfers transfer because they can get paid, whether they play or not.



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Post by CatBlitz » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm

This is alllllllll about money. 20 year olds getting 6+ figures will get them to leave anywhere.

To other points, if we want better receivers and for them to stay, we gotta have a better pass game. We really haven't stretched the field in years in that regard.
Other than money, it's opportunity.

However, we still have got to get some receivers and DBs or it's going to be a rough year.


Don't let this distract you from the fact that the griz blew a 22-0 lead.

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We lost by 3 points to a powerhouse team who won their 10th. We got beat last year by a blocked extra point in OT. Yes to the same team, but that can't translate to "we can't beat these guys" unless there's something going on in the locker room or with coaches that's causing players to jump ship. I refuse to believe it's all about the money. Is there an Us vs Them thing going on with MT vs not MT players? Are more coaches leaving? Is it simply a domino affect caused by greed for "the next best thing?" I was feeling pretty good yesterday after the Friday "Staying" posts, and no new transfers yesterday. Today, however, sucks!
You’re overthinking things. Chill.
Well I hope you're right. I'm super glad Vigen recruited well. I suppose if we were seeing some transfers in that would be helpful at least. Just feels wrong.



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Post by KIX » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...



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Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:17 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:15 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:06 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:57 pm
Now the question becomes, what's going on with the program? Clearly something is happening within the program, and that something isn't positive.
Oh please. This isn't hard you guys. These kids are getting floated huge offers from 3rd parties and they don't want to turn down the potential of going to the Power 4 and getting paid handsomely for it. Moore, Humphrey, Jones, Powdrell, and now potentially Johnson and Polidore are all going to get paid. Dru has a shot at making a lot of money and he likely found out how much in the past 5 days.

As for guys like Alexander, thats a tale as old as time with WRs.

Is this a problem with the program? No...but it's something we better be recruiting for every year. Holes will have to be filled through developing high schoolers (which we are obviously very good at) or finding Rohan's every year (mercenaries). It certainly doesn't feel good but we don't have the collective or FCOA that the Bison have. Adapt or die I suppose.
Sorry, but Powdrell, Johnson, and I'd argue even Polidore are not P4 players. Anybody telling them otherwise is feeding them BS. Is making a bunch of money to be a back up more important than playing? I remember when transfers transfered because they didn't get to play. Now transfers transfer because they can get paid, whether they play or not.
Pretty sure Lance made that point 6 days ago.


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Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:18 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:15 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:06 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:57 pm
Now the question becomes, what's going on with the program? Clearly something is happening within the program, and that something isn't positive.
Oh please. This isn't hard you guys. These kids are getting floated huge offers from 3rd parties and they don't want to turn down the potential of going to the Power 4 and getting paid handsomely for it. Moore, Humphrey, Jones, Powdrell, and now potentially Johnson and Polidore are all going to get paid. Dru has a shot at making a lot of money and he likely found out how much in the past 5 days.

As for guys like Alexander, thats a tale as old as time with WRs.

Is this a problem with the program? No...but it's something we better be recruiting for every year. Holes will have to be filled through developing high schoolers (which we are obviously very good at) or finding Rohan's every year (mercenaries). It certainly doesn't feel good but we don't have the collective or FCOA that the Bison have. Adapt or die I suppose.
Sorry, but Powdrell, Johnson, and I'd argue even Polidore are not P4 players. Anybody telling them otherwise is feeding them BS. Is making a bunch of money to be a back up more important than playing? I remember when transfers transfered because they didn't get to play. Now transfers transfer because they can get paid, whether they play or not.
I don't think Polidore leaves unless he knows he has P4 offers waiting. I agree with you on the other two. As fans, just don't get too attached to transfer players or our really good high school players. Sounds fun to be a fan!


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Post by RickRund » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:18 pm

mslacatfan wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:43 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
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AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:38 pm
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Whaaaat?

I don't think we play Idaho next year. Regardless he wants to go to a throwing offense. Alexander is a great run blocker but I think he wants the rock more. My take? He's a great run blocker...
Yeah, I figured that’s why he went in the portal in the first place. Going to a rival school and competing for a title against your former team, well, whatever.
Am I a bad fan if I don't wish him good luck?

According to some on here- yes, absolutely!

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SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:14 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:11 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:09 pm
Future of college football folks. You do have to wonder if we would have won the Natty if it would have changed anything…I don’t know that it would have. Most of these kids are going to go where the money is.
Winning the Natty would have made it even easier for some of them to leave for the money. You can’t get higher than winning a Natty and it’s an easier decision to go for personal goals after that.
AF on your recruit page, which thank you for doing that, it’s a hell of a lot of work on top of what ever else you have going on in life. Are possible recruited portal dudes shown as a *portal player, or am I best to click on links and investigate? I’m happy doing that, just don’t want to make sure I’m missing something more obvious.
The Cats don’t have any commits or offered recruits from the portal yet. When they do, I’ll list the school they are currently at.


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Post by CatBlitz » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:19 pm

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:17 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:15 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:06 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:57 pm
Now the question becomes, what's going on with the program? Clearly something is happening within the program, and that something isn't positive.
Oh please. This isn't hard you guys. These kids are getting floated huge offers from 3rd parties and they don't want to turn down the potential of going to the Power 4 and getting paid handsomely for it. Moore, Humphrey, Jones, Powdrell, and now potentially Johnson and Polidore are all going to get paid. Dru has a shot at making a lot of money and he likely found out how much in the past 5 days.

As for guys like Alexander, thats a tale as old as time with WRs.

Is this a problem with the program? No...but it's something we better be recruiting for every year. Holes will have to be filled through developing high schoolers (which we are obviously very good at) or finding Rohan's every year (mercenaries). It certainly doesn't feel good but we don't have the collective or FCOA that the Bison have. Adapt or die I suppose.
Sorry, but Powdrell, Johnson, and I'd argue even Polidore are not P4 players. Anybody telling them otherwise is feeding them BS. Is making a bunch of money to be a back up more important than playing? I remember when transfers transfered because they didn't get to play. Now transfers transfer because they can get paid, whether they play or not.
Pretty sure Lance made that point 6 days ago.
Anecdotal, honestly.


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Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:20 pm

KIX wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...
Yup none left I hear...

Three weeks until signing day and visits started this weekend. I'd expect 10-15 additions by signing day. Portal additions and some more high schoolers.


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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:21 pm

KIX wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...
You’re right.

They probably won’t add any players, heck, probably aren’t even looking for any, and we’ll likely disband the program within the year.



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Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:21 pm

KIX wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...
Right, what we have like a 1.5 days for incoming announcements for Spring Ball. Looking back I really screwed myself out of using a medical when I could have or not transferring to Oregon, but then I thought it was freaking awesome that I got an education paid for.



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Post by nanacat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:21 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:20 pm
KIX wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...
Yup none left I hear...

Three weeks until signing day and visits started this weekend. I'd expect 10-15 additions by signing day. Portal additions and some more high schoolers.
What do you mean by none left?



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Turning into a Private Hudson cult.


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Post by VimSince03 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:23 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:21 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:20 pm
KIX wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...
Yup none left I hear...

Three weeks until sschoolers and visits started this weekend. I'd expect 10-15 additions by signing day. Portal additions and some more high schoolers.
What do you mean by none left?
The portal has dried up. No more players left. We may not firld a team next year.

I was being sarcastic.


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Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:23 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:19 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:14 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:11 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:09 pm
Future of college football folks. You do have to wonder if we would have won the Natty if it would have changed anything…I don’t know that it would have. Most of these kids are going to go where the money is.
Winning the Natty would have made it even easier for some of them to leave for the money. You can’t get higher than winning a Natty and it’s an easier decision to go for personal goals after that.
AF on your recruit page, which thank you for doing that, it’s a hell of a lot of work on top of what ever else you have going on in life. Are possible recruited portal dudes shown as a *portal player, or am I best to click on links and investigate? I’m happy doing that, just don’t want to make sure I’m missing something more obvious.
The Cats don’t have any commits or offered recruits from the portal yet. When they do, I’ll list the school they are currently at.
Thanks man!



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VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:23 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:21 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:20 pm
KIX wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:16 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:04 pm
Well Bobcat Nation, we may be entering another era of the dark ages. Dudes leaving left and right, and coaching staff can’t bring in a single player. What a joke.
We literally haven't even got to our player addition part of the off-season ladies and gentlemen. We are a week from the title game. People have every right to be upset but this is how these things go now.

Polidore, Johnson, and Powdrell leaving takes top talent away from the secondary but we've recruited well there and in high volume. Buckle in and let's at least see who we have added by signing day. SDSU just added like 5 dropdown FBS players. I'm not too concerned.
Better get started on the "player addition" part of your post quickly or we'll be on the outside looking in...
Yup none left I hear...

Three weeks until sschoolers and visits started this weekend. I'd expect 10-15 additions by signing day. Portal additions and some more high schoolers.
What do you mean by none left?
The portal has dried up. No more players left. We may not firld a team next year.

I was being sarcastic.
That's what I was hoping you were being, but I'm a little tender right now. :?



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Post by SparkCat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:26 pm

Hawks86 wrote:
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Turning into a Private Hudson cult.
And how many movies later are the Aliens kicking ass. Dude was onto something



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Post by BleedingBLue » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:18 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:15 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:06 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:57 pm
Now the question becomes, what's going on with the program? Clearly something is happening within the program, and that something isn't positive.
Oh please. This isn't hard you guys. These kids are getting floated huge offers from 3rd parties and they don't want to turn down the potential of going to the Power 4 and getting paid handsomely for it. Moore, Humphrey, Jones, Powdrell, and now potentially Johnson and Polidore are all going to get paid. Dru has a shot at making a lot of money and he likely found out how much in the past 5 days.

As for guys like Alexander, thats a tale as old as time with WRs.

Is this a problem with the program? No...but it's something we better be recruiting for every year. Holes will have to be filled through developing high schoolers (which we are obviously very good at) or finding Rohan's every year (mercenaries). It certainly doesn't feel good but we don't have the collective or FCOA that the Bison have. Adapt or die I suppose.
Sorry, but Powdrell, Johnson, and I'd argue even Polidore are not P4 players. Anybody telling them otherwise is feeding them BS. Is making a bunch of money to be a back up more important than playing? I remember when transfers transfered because they didn't get to play. Now transfers transfer because they can get paid, whether they play or not.
I don't think Polidore leaves unless he knows he has P4 offers waiting. I agree with you on the other two. As fans, just don't get too attached to transfer players or our really good high school players. Sounds fun to be a fan!
I get that Polidore probably has P4 offers, but I don't see him being a starting safety at a P4 school, unless it's a bottom feeder. It's crazy SDSU and NDSU have had so many guys return to try to win titles, or in SDSUs case, go back to back, yet we can't keep guys trying to get one. How much more money does NDSU have than us to keep Lance??



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