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[SparkCat]

Anyone have a good big stick to poke MSU football with? See if its alive at all?

Careful, you're supposed to be excited about everything. Whenever someone leaves that just proves even more how great the program is doing. We'll pick up whatever we need in four months. Everyone is dying to come to Bozeman, just not yet.

Think it's somewhere in between. You don't need to be jacked that we lost good players and some coaches. But anyone paying attention knew that was going to be the case before the season even started. And next season too. And the season after that.

If I remember correctly, I don't recall being super busy during this time period last season either.

Bottom line is that if you truly believe in Vigen and this staff, they really haven't given any of us reason to think they don't know what they're doing. We'll add players, adjust our staff, and look forward to another promising season next year.

Correct. And if you don't have faith in Vigen knowing wtf he's about at this point, I dunno what's going to convince you. Modern college athletics is a big adjustment for fans at best and sucks at worst but we're in good hands.

I have no problem with Vigen. We're in the best hands we've been in during my entire lifetime. I'm (mostly) just joking about how some people have hinted or outright said that we're close on signees/coaches and then nothing happens but we're just supposed to ignore that and go along with the newest idea that it's all by design and everything will get wrapped up after spring ball. And if you question any of that you're being impatient and irrational.

Just a friendly reminder that just because you can't read it on BN, does NOT mean that stuff isn't happening.....

Then why is it happening everywhere else?

Why is what happening everywhere else? Message board chatter? That is exactly my point. Just because you all don't have all the answers when you want on BobcatNation doesn't mean:

Staff isn't recruiting players and likely has a great idea of who they are targeting and feel good getting

Vigen isn't solidifying his staff

They aren't active in the portal

NIL isn't doing what it should

Donations and exciting stuff isn't happening

Sure some message boards are very active with portal players. Doesn't mean anything. May work out, may not. But not every team in the country needs the same amount of players or the same position players. So it means nothing for us. Aside from one other team, no one else was still playing less than two weeks ago. Many teams didn't sign a high school class as big as ours. There are a plethora of reasons why some of you aren't getting the information you so desperately want.

So my point stands. Just because you're not getting all the info you want on this message board, does NOT mean that there isn't a lot happening within the program right now.

You’re wrong. Everyone knows that the coaches are active posters on this board

[TomCat88]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

I’m not so sure about that. His versatility and speed down the seam made a difference in how teams defended us. I think like Snell, he made a big difference that didn’t always show up on the box score.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

I’m not so sure about that. His versatility and speed down the seam made a difference in how teams defended us. I think like Snell, he made a big difference that didn’t always show up on the box score.

I would disagree as we still was hanging 30+ on everyone. There we were still highly productive without him. Yes he made things easier but the the combo of players and coaching scheme still showed us to put up a lot of points in his absence.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Anyone have a good big stick to poke MSU football with? See if its alive at all?

Careful, you're supposed to be excited about everything. Whenever someone leaves that just proves even more how great the program is doing. We'll pick up whatever we need in four months. Everyone is dying to come to Bozeman, just not yet.

Think it's somewhere in between. You don't need to be jacked that we lost good players and some coaches. But anyone paying attention knew that was going to be the case before the season even started. And next season too. And the season after that.

If I remember correctly, I don't recall being super busy during this time period last season either.

Bottom line is that if you truly believe in Vigen and this staff, they really haven't given any of us reason to think they don't know what they're doing. We'll add players, adjust our staff, and look forward to another promising season next year.

Correct. And if you don't have faith in Vigen knowing wtf he's about at this point, I dunno what's going to convince you. Modern college athletics is a big adjustment for fans at best and sucks at worst but we're in good hands.

I have no problem with Vigen. We're in the best hands we've been in during my entire lifetime. I'm (mostly) just joking about how some people have hinted or outright said that we're close on signees/coaches and then nothing happens but we're just supposed to ignore that and go along with the newest idea that it's all by design and everything will get wrapped up after spring ball. And if you question any of that you're being impatient and irrational.

Just a friendly reminder that just because you can't read it on BN, does NOT mean that stuff isn't happening.....

Then why is it happening everywhere else?

Why is what happening everywhere else? Message board chatter? That is exactly my point. Just because you all don't have all the answers when you want on BobcatNation doesn't mean:

Staff isn't recruiting players and likely has a great idea of who they are targeting and feel good getting

Vigen isn't solidifying his staff

They aren't active in the portal

NIL isn't doing what it should

Donations and exciting stuff isn't happening

Sure some message boards are very active with portal players. Doesn't mean anything. May work out, may not. But not every team in the country needs the same amount of players or the same position players. So it means nothing for us. Aside from one other team, no one else was still playing less than two weeks ago. Many teams didn't sign a high school class as big as ours. There are a plethora of reasons why some of you aren't getting the information you so desperately want.

So my point stands. Just because you're not getting all the info you want on this message board, does NOT mean that there isn't a lot happening within the program right now.

I really appreciate this take. I've said it off rip.... we will be just fine.... the coaches are doing their work. We were one of the last teams playing and yes we took some big hits. Everyone hates it but this sense of entitlement to knowledge about what's going on is crazy. Those who know, know... those that don't will find out. Have some faith in a staff that has shown the ability to evaluate, recruit and develop players at a high clip.

We signed 26 during early period... that's crazy good. We lost 14, 5 important pieces. They aren't going to make rash decisions on players coming in. They have to fit msu football mentally and physically. That takes time to evaluate. There are players they thought would be available that chose other places, they aren't going to divulge that because other players they were looking at don't want to be 2nd choices. It's called strategy folks and you don't let anyone know what you know or what you're doing. They tip off what theyre doing and other teams WILL try to swoop in and steal kids. I know for a fact that schools will just sit and wait to see who another schools follows or they hear they are recruiting only to start recruiting them too. Especially a school like msu that rarely misses on talent. Other coaches are watching us and using us to evaluate the talent then try to take those guys because we want them... so they must be good. When u speak on these schools in taking big time fbs schools, schools that we can't compete with their player packages. Just relax everyone we will be just fine.

[CelticCat]

Last evening's CBS news featured an interesting story regarding the impact NIL is having on college sports. I have no idea how it will eventually impact FCS schools. But the money that's out there for FBS football and of course college basketball pretty much guarantees that there will be fewer "cinderella stories" in college sports. One thing that this episode does NOT bring out, and this is just my opinion, is that some of the really big programs (I won't mention names) have ALWAYS thrown A LOT of money at players and just didn't get caught or had connections with the NCAA. THOSE schools are the ones MOST unhappy with NIL as it sort of "levels the playing field. Here's the link:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/college-sp ... nges-ncaa/

A lot of Twitter chatter about how the SEC's slight fall from grace is due to the fact that their cheating advantage is gone.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

I’m not so sure about that. His versatility and speed down the seam made a difference in how teams defended us. I think like Snell, he made a big difference that didn’t always show up on the box score.

I would disagree as we still was hanging 30+ on everyone. There we were still highly productive without him. Yes he made things easier but the the combo of players and coaching scheme still showed us to put up a lot of points in his absence.

I would say that’s more a sign of the overall talent and depth of the offense than that his replacements were of equal value. We had some really good TE’s this season, but none of them could do what Jones did. That’s why Valcin’s is so important.

[CelticCat]

Anyone have a good big stick to poke MSU football with? See if its alive at all?

Careful, you're supposed to be excited about everything. Whenever someone leaves that just proves even more how great the program is doing. We'll pick up whatever we need in four months. Everyone is dying to come to Bozeman, just not yet.

Think it's somewhere in between. You don't need to be jacked that we lost good players and some coaches. But anyone paying attention knew that was going to be the case before the season even started. And next season too. And the season after that.

If I remember correctly, I don't recall being super busy during this time period last season either.

Bottom line is that if you truly believe in Vigen and this staff, they really haven't given any of us reason to think they don't know what they're doing. We'll add players, adjust our staff, and look forward to another promising season next year.

Correct. And if you don't have faith in Vigen knowing wtf he's about at this point, I dunno what's going to convince you. Modern college athletics is a big adjustment for fans at best and sucks at worst but we're in good hands.

I have no problem with Vigen. We're in the best hands we've been in during my entire lifetime. I'm (mostly) just joking about how some people have hinted or outright said that we're close on signees/coaches and then nothing happens but we're just supposed to ignore that and go along with the newest idea that it's all by design and everything will get wrapped up after spring ball. And if you question any of that you're being impatient and irrational.

So you got excited or hopeful due to some posters saying "this or that is about to happen", and then it hasn't happened and you are getting impatient with that?

The NIL and portal is going to test the psyche of plenty of college football fans. I'm wondering if some people would best be served to simply check out after the last Bobcat football game until spring ball every year, there is going to be turnover and uncertainty on an yearly basis.

[TomCat88]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

I’m not so sure about that. His versatility and speed down the seam made a difference in how teams defended us. I think like Snell, he made a big difference that didn’t always show up on the box score.

I would disagree as we still was hanging 30+ on everyone. There we were still highly productive without him. Yes he made things easier but the the combo of players and coaching scheme still showed us to put up a lot of points in his absence.

That’s my point. Rohan is a great TE/FB, but even without him MSU’s offense continued to play well. Would they have been better with him? Probably, but the bottom line is MSU continued to play excellent offensive football with him on the sideline. The same goes for the defense without Schmidt, Uluilakepa and Dowler. Would they have been better? Probably, but…still an excellent defense. The players who filled for them initially after their injuries all played well and all three were players taken out of HS. (Sharbono, Daily and Taki (later polidore)).

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

I’m not so sure about that. His versatility and speed down the seam made a difference in how teams defended us. I think like Snell, he made a big difference that didn’t always show up on the box score.

I would disagree as we still was hanging 30+ on everyone. There we were still highly productive without him. Yes he made things easier but the the combo of players and coaching scheme still showed us to put up a lot of points in his absence.

I would say that’s more a sign of the overall talent and depth of the offense than that his replacements were of equal value. We had some really good TE’s this season, but none of them could do what Jones did. That’s why Valcin’s is so important.

You realize we are saying the same thing right? I never said his talent was equaled, I just said that we didn't miss him when he was out because we were still productive. I agree we had talent at the TE position, we still do. We are saying the same thing just a different way.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Vigen and staff know how to develop players. The lone portal players to come in for 2024 and make noise were Rohan Jones and Alec Eckert.

MSU showed no noticeable drop off when Jones was injured.

MSU has improved talent-wise every season since Vigen arrived. The end result may not reflect that but I think if you evaluate the rosters and look at how some of results came about you will see this clearly.

I’m not so sure about that. His versatility and speed down the seam made a difference in how teams defended us. I think like Snell, he made a big difference that didn’t always show up on the box score.

I would disagree as we still was hanging 30+ on everyone. There we were still highly productive without him. Yes he made things easier but the the combo of players and coaching scheme still showed us to put up a lot of points in his absence.

That’s my point. Rohan is a great TE/FB, but even without him MSU’s offense continued to play well. Would they have been better with him? Probably, but the bottom line is MSU continued to play excellent offensive football with him on the sideline. The same goes for the defense without Schmidt, Uluilakepa and Dowler. Would they have been better? Probably, but…still an excellent defense. The players who filled for them initially after their injuries all played well and all three were players taken out of HS. (Sharbono, Daily and Taki (later polidore)).

This is probably a minor distinction, but I don’t think “still played well” and “no drop off” are the same things in this situation. That’s more my point.

[tetoncat]

Anyone have a good big stick to poke MSU football with? See if its alive at all?

Careful, you're supposed to be excited about everything. Whenever someone leaves that just proves even more how great the program is doing. We'll pick up whatever we need in four months. Everyone is dying to come to Bozeman, just not yet.

Think it's somewhere in between. You don't need to be jacked that we lost good players and some coaches. But anyone paying attention knew that was going to be the case before the season even started. And next season too. And the season after that.

If I remember correctly, I don't recall being super busy during this time period last season either.

Bottom line is that if you truly believe in Vigen and this staff, they really haven't given any of us reason to think they don't know what they're doing. We'll add players, adjust our staff, and look forward to another promising season next year.

Correct. And if you don't have faith in Vigen knowing wtf he's about at this point, I dunno what's going to convince you. Modern college athletics is a big adjustment for fans at best and sucks at worst but we're in good hands.

I have no problem with Vigen. We're in the best hands we've been in during my entire lifetime. I'm (mostly) just joking about how some people have hinted or outright said that we're close on signees/coaches and then nothing happens but we're just supposed to ignore that and go along with the newest idea that it's all by design and everything will get wrapped up after spring ball. And if you question any of that you're being impatient and irrational.

Just a friendly reminder that just because you can't read it on BN, does NOT mean that stuff isn't happening.....

Then why is it happening everywhere else?

Why is what happening everywhere else? Message board chatter? That is exactly my point. Just because you all don't have all the answers when you want on BobcatNation doesn't mean:

Staff isn't recruiting players and likely has a great idea of who they are targeting and feel good getting

Vigen isn't solidifying his staff

They aren't active in the portal

NIL isn't doing what it should

Donations and exciting stuff isn't happening

Sure some message boards are very active with portal players. Doesn't mean anything. May work out, may not. But not every team in the country needs the same amount of players or the same position players. So it means nothing for us. Aside from one other team, no one else was still playing less than two weeks ago. Many teams didn't sign a high school class as big as ours. There are a plethora of reasons why some of you aren't getting the information you so desperately want.

So my point stands. Just because you're not getting all the info you want on this message board, does NOT mean that there isn't a lot happening within the program right now.

I really appreciate this take. I've said it off rip.... we will be just fine.... the coaches are doing their work. We were one of the last teams playing and yes we took some big hits. Everyone hates it but this sense of entitlement to knowledge about what's going on is crazy. Those who know, know... those that don't will find out. Have some faith in a staff that has shown the ability to evaluate, recruit and develop players at a high clip.

We signed 26 during early period... that's crazy good. We lost 14, 5 important pieces. They aren't going to make rash decisions on players coming in. They have to fit msu football mentally and physically. That takes time to evaluate. There are players they thought would be available that chose other places, they aren't going to divulge that because other players they were looking at don't want to be 2nd choices. It's called strategy folks and you don't let anyone know what you know or what you're doing. They tip off what theyre doing and other teams WILL try to swoop in and steal kids. I know for a fact that schools will just sit and wait to see who another schools follows or they hear they are recruiting only to start recruiting them too. Especially a school like msu that rarely misses on talent. Other coaches are watching us and using us to evaluate the talent then try to take those guys because we want them... so they must be good. When u speak on these schools in taking big time fbs schools, schools that we can't compete with their player packages. Just relax everyone we will be just fine.

Sense of entitlement would be going to quarterbacks club or directly to athletic department and demanding answers and info. Posting randomly on message boards of fans wondering why there is no news and hoping to get some is not entitlement.

[AFCAT]

Anyone have a good big stick to poke MSU football with? See if its alive at all?

Careful, you're supposed to be excited about everything. Whenever someone leaves that just proves even more how great the program is doing. We'll pick up whatever we need in four months. Everyone is dying to come to Bozeman, just not yet.

Think it's somewhere in between. You don't need to be jacked that we lost good players and some coaches. But anyone paying attention knew that was going to be the case before the season even started. And next season too. And the season after that.

If I remember correctly, I don't recall being super busy during this time period last season either.

Bottom line is that if you truly believe in Vigen and this staff, they really haven't given any of us reason to think they don't know what they're doing. We'll add players, adjust our staff, and look forward to another promising season next year.

Correct. And if you don't have faith in Vigen knowing wtf he's about at this point, I dunno what's going to convince you. Modern college athletics is a big adjustment for fans at best and sucks at worst but we're in good hands.

I have no problem with Vigen. We're in the best hands we've been in during my entire lifetime. I'm (mostly) just joking about how some people have hinted or outright said that we're close on signees/coaches and then nothing happens but we're just supposed to ignore that and go along with the newest idea that it's all by design and everything will get wrapped up after spring ball. And if you question any of that you're being impatient and irrational.

Just a friendly reminder that just because you can't read it on BN, does NOT mean that stuff isn't happening.....

Then why is it happening everywhere else?

Why is what happening everywhere else? Message board chatter? That is exactly my point. Just because you all don't have all the answers when you want on BobcatNation doesn't mean:

Staff isn't recruiting players and likely has a great idea of who they are targeting and feel good getting

Vigen isn't solidifying his staff

They aren't active in the portal

NIL isn't doing what it should

Donations and exciting stuff isn't happening

Sure some message boards are very active with portal players. Doesn't mean anything. May work out, may not. But not every team in the country needs the same amount of players or the same position players. So it means nothing for us. Aside from one other team, no one else was still playing less than two weeks ago. Many teams didn't sign a high school class as big as ours. There are a plethora of reasons why some of you aren't getting the information you so desperately want.

So my point stands. Just because you're not getting all the info you want on this message board, does NOT mean that there isn't a lot happening within the program right now.

I really appreciate this take. I've said it off rip.... we will be just fine.... the coaches are doing their work. We were one of the last teams playing and yes we took some big hits. Everyone hates it but this sense of entitlement to knowledge about what's going on is crazy. Those who know, know... those that don't will find out. Have some faith in a staff that has shown the ability to evaluate, recruit and develop players at a high clip.

We signed 26 during early period... that's crazy good. We lost 14, 5 important pieces. They aren't going to make rash decisions on players coming in. They have to fit msu football mentally and physically. That takes time to evaluate. There are players they thought would be available that chose other places, they aren't going to divulge that because other players they were looking at don't want to be 2nd choices. It's called strategy folks and you don't let anyone know what you know or what you're doing. They tip off what theyre doing and other teams WILL try to swoop in and steal kids. I know for a fact that schools will just sit and wait to see who another schools follows or they hear they are recruiting only to start recruiting them too. Especially a school like msu that rarely misses on talent. Other coaches are watching us and using us to evaluate the talent then try to take those guys because we want them... so they must be good. When u speak on these schools in taking big time fbs schools, schools that we can't compete with their player packages. Just relax everyone we will be just fine.

Sense of entitlement would be going to quarterbacks club or directly to athletic department and demanding answers and info. Posting randomly on message boards of fans wondering why there is no news and hoping to get some is not entitlement.

[imacat]

Junior Alexander talks about transferring to Idaho …

https://bozemandailychronicle-mt.newsme ... 6b_134f829

[MSU01]

Junior Alexander talks about transferring to Idaho …

https://bozemandailychronicle-mt.newsme ... 6b_134f829

Good article, nice to hear things from the player's perspective to get an insight into their reasons for transferring. I hope Lonyatta has a great couple of years in Moscow other than the 2026 game against the Bobcats and any potential playoff games that may happen. Glad he still referred to the "team over the hill", which I suppose is still true for him.

[AFCAT]

Cal comes in and steals another Bobcat. Cue the "Why can't the bobcats sign anyone" posts.

[Bobcatsinmso]

DP lands at Cal.

[Lord Vigo]

Cal is a pathetic program. I hope they lose out this year. And all years.

[Prodigal Cat]

Lets use the other thread for portal movement not directly related to the Cats and this one for strictly Bobcat entrants/signees.

Portal out:
Conner Moore Lesser MSU
Jared White
Blake Stillwell SUU
Cole Bullock
Marqui Johnson
Elijah Elliott
Scottre Humphrey
Rohan Jones Arkansas
Garrett Walchli
Lonyatta Alexander Jr. Idaho
Andrew Powdrell
Jon Johnson
Casey Kautzman Mt Tech
Dru Polidore can’t recruit for sh!t so we steal MSU players. Cal

In:

[Bobcatsinmso]

Cal is a pathetic program. I hope they lose out this year. And all years.

They certainly seem to bring in more than their share of MSU football players lately. A degree from Berkley may also play a role.
They are not a great football program, were they ever?