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Post by smith427 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm

Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!


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Post by RyeCat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:26 pm

smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
I saw that too. I was under the impression that Vigen didn’t let players return from the portal but maybe he’s had a change of heart?



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Post by AFCAT » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:35 pm

Joe Bobcat wrote:
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Scottre has been classy his whole career at MSU. How about we just wish him the best.

And he will be doing fine at UNM. They are in decent shape, especially for a G5 team:

https://www.abqjournal.com/sports/unms- ... 01bc5.html
Thank you for the classy post cataholic. That is what I expected from Bobcat fans - not the hate and vitriol I see from others on here. Bozeman is some sort of paradise to you clowns and Albuquerque is a dump? You are definitely fitting into some of the worst stereotypes from the series you hate so much (Yellowstone). Congratulations. For your information, we have one of the largest G5 NIL funds in the country, but it mostly goes to basketball so I seriously doubt that is what brought him here.

We did not make him enter the portal, so why blame us? He was going to go somewhere and I am glad that he chose such a filthy, crime-ridden, ugly place like aAlbuquerque. :roll: Some of you people need to look in the mirror sometime. For the fans that joined our site during our game in October, did we make fun of you and call you names - even after your team barely won due to our mistakes? No - quite the opposite in fact. All of you were treated absurdly well.

I would prefer to remember Bobcat fans that way, but perhaps this is the real you.
You were doing fine right up to the; “even after your team barely won due to our mistakes.” That’s hilarious.
I thought the exact same! The only reason it was even close was because of MSUs mistakes!
Typical early season mistakes by both teams that could’ve changed the outcome but a couple unbelievable drops by Lobo receivers especially late in the game were huge
So were the atypical fumbles by Tommy.


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Post by Lord Vigo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm

smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?



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Post by smith427 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:53 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
Assuming that's what the tweet means, I guess that must be true. Honestly I haven't heard anything to suggest that our coaching staff is particularly against that. Just another "adapt or die" issue that our staff appears to be on the right side of.


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Post by VimSince03 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.


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Post by Lord Vigo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.



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Post by wbtfg » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:09 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.
I think Vigen had said he just wants an honest, open line of communication and doesn't want any surprises.


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Post by MSU01 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:11 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.
I think it's wise to have an open mind about things and judge each situation on an individual basis. To me the conversation is:

1) As soon as you enter the portal, your spot on next year's roster is no longer guaranteed and we will actively try to recruit someone to replace you.
2) If you want to withdraw and come back to MSU, we'll consider it IF your roster spot hasn't already gone to another player and IF we think you're good enough to contribute to the team.

I think that if a player were to enter the portal multiple times to "shop around" so to speak, that Vigen would get tired of that pretty quickly and not allow the player to return.



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Post by ilovethecats » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:14 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:11 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.
I think it's wise to have an open mind about things and judge each situation on an individual basis. To me the conversation is:

1) As soon as you enter the portal, your spot on next year's roster is no longer guaranteed and we will actively try to recruit someone to replace you.
2) If you want to withdraw and come back to MSU, we'll consider it IF your roster spot hasn't already gone to another player and IF we think you're good enough to contribute to the team.

I think that if a player were to enter the portal multiple times to "shop around" so to speak, that Vigen would get tired of that pretty quickly and not allow the player to return.
This seems very reasonable and smart to me.



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Post by Lord Vigo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:14 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:11 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.
I think it's wise to have an open mind about things and judge each situation on an individual basis. To me the conversation is:

1) As soon as you enter the portal, your spot on next year's roster is no longer guaranteed and we will actively try to recruit someone to replace you.
2) If you want to withdraw and come back to MSU, we'll consider it IF your roster spot hasn't already gone to another player and IF we think you're good enough to contribute to the team.

I think that if a player were to enter the portal multiple times to "shop around" so to speak, that Vigen would get tired of that pretty quickly and not allow the player to return.
That sounds like the right balance.



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Post by RangeCat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:28 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:14 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:11 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.
I think it's wise to have an open mind about things and judge each situation on an individual basis. To me the conversation is:

1) As soon as you enter the portal, your spot on next year's roster is no longer guaranteed and we will actively try to recruit someone to replace you.
2) If you want to withdraw and come back to MSU, we'll consider it IF your roster spot hasn't already gone to another player and IF we think you're good enough to contribute to the team.

I think that if a player were to enter the portal multiple times to "shop around" so to speak, that Vigen would get tired of that pretty quickly and not allow the player to return.
That sounds like the right balance.
I also wonder if they give him a little leeway, given the fact that he and rest of players didn't know who the new OC was going to be going forward.

P.S. He pinned that "Sum2Prove" tweet and, from what I can tell, took down his transfer portal entry tweet.


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Post by CodyCat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:31 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:26 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
I saw that too. I was under the impression that Vigen didn’t let players return from the portal but maybe he’s had a change of heart?
Me too. Which I honestly thought might have been the case with Scottre.


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Jon Johnson???


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Post by hartofacat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:59 pm

Prodigal Cat wrote:
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Jon Johnson???
What about him? Socials havent changed showing he signed or is staying.


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Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm

In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.



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Post by Prodigal Cat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:16 pm

hartofacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:59 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:48 pm
Jon Johnson???
What about him? Socials havent changed showing he signed or is staying.
I guess my thought is if the Cats are letting Portal entries back to the team and he hasn't got an offer that he likes would JJ be a candidate to pull his name and stay? He hasn't posted an offer.


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Post by Montanabob » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:22 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:14 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:11 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:06 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm
smith427 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Jared white just posted to X, looks like he may be staying after all? I hope so!
That would be cool! I think he definitely has the ability to be part of the rotation.

Does this mean that the coaching staff was cool with him testing the waters in the portal and then coming back? Or was he never officially in it?
He posted he was officially in the portal with the screenshot of the entry.
Does anyone have thoughts on that approach to the portal? I know some programs draw a hard line that once you enter, you're done.

I can see the rationale both directions. You don't want to lose more players unnecessarily in the case that they want to return. But you also don't want to create an environment where players are encouraged to shop themselves around every offseason knowing they can just come back.
I think it's wise to have an open mind about things and judge each situation on an individual basis. To me the conversation is:

1) As soon as you enter the portal, your spot on next year's roster is no longer guaranteed and we will actively try to recruit someone to replace you.
2) If you want to withdraw and come back to MSU, we'll consider it IF your roster spot hasn't already gone to another player and IF we think you're good enough to contribute to the team.

I think that if a player were to enter the portal multiple times to "shop around" so to speak, that Vigen would get tired of that pretty quickly and not allow the player to return.
That sounds like the right balance.
maybe they all though all the coaches including Vigen were leaving. trying to find a home for spring ball


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Post by smith427 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:31 pm

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:16 pm
hartofacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:59 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:48 pm
Jon Johnson???
What about him? Socials havent changed showing he signed or is staying.
I guess my thought is if the Cats are letting Portal entries back to the team and he hasn't got an offer that he likes would JJ be a candidate to pull his name and stay? He hasn't posted an offer.
I would love that, he was great this year and would keep some great veteran leadership in our secondary.

Also, the White news makes me wonder what made him want to come back, since I believe he did have some other offers. The optimist in me says it shows his faith in the recently hired OC, which would be a great sign. The pessimist in me thinks it could indicate some of our top level RBs have intent to enter the portal later on, which would give him more playing time next year. Time will tell...


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