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Post by SparkCat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:51 pm

AFCAT wrote:
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This pleases me!



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AFCAT wrote:
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looks like he came from a good JUCO program. Can't wait to hear more about him!



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Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:04 pm

luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:59 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:48 pm
looks like he came from a good JUCO program. Can't wait to hear more about him!
Yes! What do we know?



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Post by Bocephus » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:06 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:04 pm
luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:59 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:48 pm
looks like he came from a good JUCO program. Can't wait to hear more about him!
Yes! What do we know?
Can't wait to hear Keaton say his name 10 times fast on the radio broadcast.



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Post by RockyBearCat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:11 pm

Welcome IFE! Glad to have some good news.



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Post by AFCAT » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:45 pm

When I first saw his photo, I thought Kevin Kassis's little brother joined the team as a DB.

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Post by Cataholic » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:25 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm
In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.
I posted this about a month ago. It is on ASU Coach Kenny Dillingham and his approach to the portal. This should be the future. I think he is ahead of the curve.

https://gophnx.com/dillinghams-transfer ... -standard/

Quote from article:

“My job is to help these guys,” Dillingham said. “Just because they went into the portal doesn’t meant they shouldn’t have the opportunity to continue to be on the team and to finish out the year, if that’s what they want to do.”



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Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:03 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:25 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm
In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.
I posted this about a month ago. It is on ASU Coach Kenny Dillingham and his approach to the portal. This should be the future. I think he is ahead of the curve.

https://gophnx.com/dillinghams-transfer ... -standard/

Quote from article:

“My job is to help these guys,” Dillingham said. “Just because they went into the portal doesn’t meant they shouldn’t have the opportunity to continue to be on the team and to finish out the year, if that’s what they want to do.”
Yes. The big picture must be considered in order to stay competitive.



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Post by Lord Vigo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:30 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:03 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:25 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm
In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.
I posted this about a month ago. It is on ASU Coach Kenny Dillingham and his approach to the portal. This should be the future. I think he is ahead of the curve.

https://gophnx.com/dillinghams-transfer ... -standard/

Quote from article:

“My job is to help these guys,” Dillingham said. “Just because they went into the portal doesn’t meant they shouldn’t have the opportunity to continue to be on the team and to finish out the year, if that’s what they want to do.”
Yes. The big picture must be considered in order to stay competitive.
And that’s the key right there. Dillingham isn’t taking that stance to try and be nicer than other coaches. He’s hoping it will give him an edge so that more players want to come to ASU.

I think you have to be careful about this. I’m not saying the right approach is a hard line where anyone who enters is done. But if you’re too loose, you could have huge swathes of your roster shopping themselves every offseason, including guys who otherwise wouldn’t.



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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:43 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:30 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:03 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:25 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm
In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.
I posted this about a month ago. It is on ASU Coach Kenny Dillingham and his approach to the portal. This should be the future. I think he is ahead of the curve.

https://gophnx.com/dillinghams-transfer ... -standard/

Quote from article:

“My job is to help these guys,” Dillingham said. “Just because they went into the portal doesn’t meant they shouldn’t have the opportunity to continue to be on the team and to finish out the year, if that’s what they want to do.”
Yes. The big picture must be considered in order to stay competitive.
And that’s the key right there. Dillingham isn’t taking that stance to try and be nicer than other coaches. He’s hoping it will give him an edge so that more players want to come to ASU.

I think you have to be careful about this. I’m not saying the right approach is a hard line where anyone who enters is done. But if you’re too loose, you could have huge swathes of your roster shopping themselves every offseason, including guys who otherwise wouldn’t.
I think it’s important to note the majority, and possibly everybody, who entered the portal for ASU when Dillingham made that comment was looking at transferring to a lesser school. Vigen and MSU did the exact same thing either way those players too. Dilly might have a different opinion for his star players leaving.



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Post by RickRund » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:33 am

RyeCat wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:49 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
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Do you want to live on the surface on the moon but you're worried there won't be enough crime???

The days of having to choose between these amenities are over. Come to Albuquerque where you can have it all!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Actually would pick Pocatello over ABQ.

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Post by Montanabob » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:44 pm

RickRund wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:33 am
RyeCat wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:49 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:47 pm
Do you want to live on the surface on the moon but you're worried there won't be enough crime???

The days of having to choose between these amenities are over. Come to Albuquerque where you can have it all!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Actually would pick Pocatello over ABQ.

Whatever floats his boat.
might have to go to a UNM game next fall and wear my bobcat gear and cheer for the visitors..... and a good game might be 9/6 against poki.


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Post by PapaG » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:30 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:43 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:30 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:03 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:25 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm
In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.
I posted this about a month ago. It is on ASU Coach Kenny Dillingham and his approach to the portal. This should be the future. I think he is ahead of the curve.

https://gophnx.com/dillinghams-transfer ... -standard/

Quote from article:

“My job is to help these guys,” Dillingham said. “Just because they went into the portal doesn’t meant they shouldn’t have the opportunity to continue to be on the team and to finish out the year, if that’s what they want to do.”
Yes. The big picture must be considered in order to stay competitive.
And that’s the key right there. Dillingham isn’t taking that stance to try and be nicer than other coaches. He’s hoping it will give him an edge so that more players want to come to ASU.

I think you have to be careful about this. I’m not saying the right approach is a hard line where anyone who enters is done. But if you’re too loose, you could have huge swathes of your roster shopping themselves every offseason, including guys who otherwise wouldn’t.
I think it’s important to note the majority, and possibly everybody, who entered the portal for ASU when Dillingham made that comment was looking at transferring to a lesser school. Vigen and MSU did the exact same thing either way those players too. Dilly might have a different opinion for his star players leaving.
He got his star player from the last two seasons from Sac State, and I doubt he’s as contradictory as many posters here are about players who transfer in compared to those who transfer out. You gain some each year; you lose others. Who cares about why, ultimately it’s that reality.

It all comes down to the self-interest of each poster ans they view their fandom, and how it impacts their opinions, and especially those who apparently can read the minds of players like Scottre Humphrey and Dru Polidore. Kind of arrogant in my view.
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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:32 pm

PapaG wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:30 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:43 pm
Lord Vigo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:30 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:03 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:25 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:10 pm
In this climate with the portal I'm not sure a coach can take a hard stance, especially with coaching jumps too. It's gotta be a case by case situation, as mentioned before. The player, the reason, the roster, etc. Certainly not allowing players to indefinitely shop is important, but also helping them navigate things correctly, as they are still young men who may not have wise counsel in their lives. Between peer pressure, seeing dollar signs, or not being happy with play time, communication is key, and based on Vigen's interview after his contract renewal about transparency, he wants and promotes openess and honesty, and that's good.
I posted this about a month ago. It is on ASU Coach Kenny Dillingham and his approach to the portal. This should be the future. I think he is ahead of the curve.

https://gophnx.com/dillinghams-transfer ... -standard/

Quote from article:

“My job is to help these guys,” Dillingham said. “Just because they went into the portal doesn’t meant they shouldn’t have the opportunity to continue to be on the team and to finish out the year, if that’s what they want to do.”
Yes. The big picture must be considered in order to stay competitive.
And that’s the key right there. Dillingham isn’t taking that stance to try and be nicer than other coaches. He’s hoping it will give him an edge so that more players want to come to ASU.

I think you have to be careful about this. I’m not saying the right approach is a hard line where anyone who enters is done. But if you’re too loose, you could have huge swathes of your roster shopping themselves every offseason, including guys who otherwise wouldn’t.
I think it’s important to note the majority, and possibly everybody, who entered the portal for ASU when Dillingham made that comment was looking at transferring to a lesser school. Vigen and MSU did the exact same thing either way those players too. Dilly might have a different opinion for his star players leaving.
He got his star player from last season from Sac State, and I doubt he’s as contradictory as many posters here are about players who transfer in compared to those who transfer out.
Crazy to think people might be hypocritical when it comes to their personal success.



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Post by PapaG » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:37 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:32 pm

Crazy to think people might be hypocritical when it comes to their personal success.
Or even posters on a message board, who have much less invested in the lives of players and coaches than those players/coaches have in living their life. Yet, they still get so upset about it one might think it’s a matter of life and death.


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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:39 pm

PapaG wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:37 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:32 pm

Crazy to think people might be hypocritical when it comes to their personal success.
Or even posters on a message board, who have much less invested in the lives of players and coaches than those players/coaches have in living their life. Yet, they still get so upset about it one might think it’s a matter of life and death.
The world is full of crazy people.



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Post by tetoncat » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:42 pm

PapaG wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:37 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:32 pm

Crazy to think people might be hypocritical when it comes to their personal success.
Or even posters on a message board, who have much less invested in the lives of players and coaches than those players/coaches have in living their life. Yet, they still get so upset about it one might think it’s a matter of life and death.
I guess posters, and boosters, and fans can quit reading and commenting, quit donating each time they are begged for money for facilities, NIL, and other causes and just enjoy their lives with their families


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Post by Lord Vigo » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:59 pm

The school marms who scold people for not reacting to Bobcats news properly are definitely the best feature of BN.



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Post by coloradocat » Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:02 pm

Lord Vigo wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:59 pm
The school marms who scold people for not reacting to Bobcats news properly are definitely the best feature of BN.
Hey man, it's just a game.


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Post by PapaG » Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:03 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:42 pm
PapaG wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:37 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:32 pm

Crazy to think people might be hypocritical when it comes to their personal success.
Or even posters on a message board, who have much less invested in the lives of players and coaches than those players/coaches have in living their life. Yet, they still get so upset about it one might think it’s a matter of life and death.


I guess posters, and boosters, and fans can quit reading and commenting, quit donating each time they are begged for money for facilities, NIL, and other causes and just enjoy their lives with their families
That’s always an option. There is nothing MSU can do right now to change the reality of NIL and the portal, though. If it upset me as much as it’s upsetting some of you, I’d simply just stop following the sport.


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