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[onceacat]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

[Cataholic]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

[TomCat88]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

I think MSU can compete with most G5 schools in keeping players and, in time, I think MSU will be able to hang with all of them. Right now, MSU is just a little behind the curve.

[onceacat]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

[Cataholic]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

[WetBreeches]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

"Never argue with an idiot. You will never convince the idiot that you are correct and bystanders won't be able to tell who is who."

[Lord Vigo]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

"Never argue with an idiot. You will never convince the idiot that you are correct and bystanders won't be able to tell who is who."

Sage advice. Every time someone disagrees with me on here I’m just like “LOL I can’t believe they’re sinking to my level.”

[onceacat]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

Why would I do that? I pay people for their work, just like Scottre will get paid for his work.

I honestly don't remotely understand what you are even trying to say.

[Cataholic]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

Why would I do that? I pay people for their work, just like Scottre will get paid for his work.

I honestly don't remotely understand what you are even trying to say.

Seriously man! MSU can’t pay $100,000 for a kid to play football. Other schools can’t. Scottre went where he had the best deal for him. It is not that complicated.

[AFCAT]

[kwcat]

Both seem like great additions. Would like to see 20 more pounds especially on Ohalete.
With the interest he was shown maybe he plays bigger than his size.

[BelligerentBobcat]

No drywall laborer is making 6 figures in Bozeman.

[onceacat]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

Why would I do that? I pay people for their work, just like Scottre will get paid for his work.

I honestly don't remotely understand what you are even trying to say.

Seriously man! MSU can’t pay $100,000 for a kid to play football. Other schools can’t. Scottre went where he had the best deal for him. It is not that complicated.

Yes. Scottre went to where he thought was the best deal. Everyone agrees with that.

But he clearly entered the portal thinking he was going to get offers and NIL from P5 schools like North Carolina which turned out not to be the case. For whatever reason, P5 schools didn't offer any NIL money or they pulled their offers.

And at that point, it was too late to come back to Bozeman so he was stuck with a crappy situation with mediocre money and a terrible team.

I'll still root for the kid. But I think we can all rest assured that when he put his name in the portal, UNM for a high 5 figure NIL wasn't what he had in mind.

[onceacat]

No drywall laborer is making 6 figures in Bozeman.

You obviously haven't been to Bozeman in a long time. Not only is a $100k drywall hanger (not laborer) making $100k, thats considered a bit on the cheap side.

Entry level laborers are making $30/hr or $70k/year with a bit of OT.

[Cataholic]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

Why would I do that? I pay people for their work, just like Scottre will get paid for his work.

I honestly don't remotely understand what you are even trying to say.

Seriously man! MSU can’t pay $100,000 for a kid to play football. Other schools can’t. Scottre went where he had the best deal for him. It is not that complicated.

Yes. Scottre went to where he thought was the best deal. Everyone agrees with that.

But he clearly entered the portal thinking he was going to get offers and NIL from P5 schools like North Carolina which turned out not to be the case. For whatever reason, P5 schools didn't offer any NIL money or they pulled their offers.

And at that point, it was too late to come back to Bozeman so he was stuck with a crappy situation with mediocre money and a terrible team.

I'll still root for the kid. But I think we can all rest assured that when he put his name in the portal, UNM for a high 5 figure NIL wasn't what he had in mind.

You sound like his agent and are privy to the details…. Quite frankly, you don’t have any idea what he was offered and why he went to UNM. The only thing we can be 100% certain is that Scottre picked the best location for him and that he served MSU well while he was a Bobcat. I love MSU just as much as any fan, but I don’t pretend that kids should stay here at their own financial sacrifice.

[SonomaCat]

It's not even remotely controversial to say that a whole lot of these kids end up taking relatively crappy offers when the golden goose offers they had hoped for don't pan out.

Transferring to a team that your own team beat the year before is clearly not what any of these guys had in mind. But once they entered the portal, they don't have much choice but to take whatever they can get.

This is absolutely a cautionary tale for future players -- the grass isn't always greener.

Maybe they will get a lifeline like Ifanse did and a Cal will come along and save them from their San Jose State ... but maybe not.

As time goes on, hopefully the "shiny new toy" affect of the portal will start to fade, and players will learn from the mistakes of those that came before them and realize how good their legacy situations are and stay put ... which will make getting a degree that much easier.

[coloradocat]

It's not even remotely controversial to say that a whole lot of these kids end up taking relatively crappy offers when the golden goose offers they had hoped for don't pan out.

Transferring to a team that your own team beat the year before is clearly not what any of these guys had in mind. But once they entered the portal, they don't have much choice but to take whatever they can get.

This is absolutely a cautionary tale for future players -- the grass isn't always greener.

Maybe they will get a lifeline like Ifanse did and a Cal will come along and save them from their San Jose State ... but maybe not.

As time goes on, hopefully the "shiny new toy" affect of the portal will start to fade, and players will learn from the mistakes of those that came before them and realize how good their legacy situations are and stay put ... which will make getting a degree that much easier.

The funny thing is that Humphrey and Johnson didn't just transfer to a team that their former team beat the year before, they essentially transferred to a team they beat 3 times last year with Eck becoming the HC at UNM.

[BelligerentBobcat]

No drywall laborer is making 6 figures in Bozeman.

You obviously haven't been to Bozeman in a long time. Not only is a $100k drywall hanger (not laborer) making $100k, thats considered a bit on the cheap side.

Entry level laborers are making $30/hr or $70k/year with a bit of OT.

If you’re talking about an owner, yeah, you’re likely right, although I doubt there’s a plethora of 20 year olds that own a drywall hanging company.

I not only live in Bozeman, but I’ve built within the last few years. I have a pretty decent idea what going rate is.

[WetBreeches]

"There are no 20 year olds in Bozeman making $100,000 to play football. It doesn’t matter what other 20 year olds are making.

And why is it so hard for people to understand that he got a better deal at NM than other spots? They have a decent G5 NIL budget. Maybe UNC was interested but offered a conditional NIL where he had to attain benchmarks to even get paid.

You stated a 0% chance that he is better at NM than at UNC. How can you be so definitive? I am pretty positive that Scottre was looking for the best offer. I really doubt he thought, “UNC is offering me so much money, but I can’t pass up an opportunity to play at NM”.

Why can’t we just wish the kid best of luck. It is the new reality of college football. We are going to lose more kids to G5 programs because of NIL. I am not sure how the revenue sharing works, but I fully expect that G5 schools will be paying more to their players than FCS schools which will widen the gap even further."

Catholic;

You seem to be missing the point on a whole lot of different levels.

$100k isn't life changing money. It's a decent/average wage. Also, given the limited budget of a G5 school & 3 other BSC transfer RB it's pretty likely he isn't getting that much. Plus, he was getting decent NIL in Bozeman to begin with.

Whatever hes getting, he obviously thought UNM was a better option. Obviously, we aren't privy to any of those conversations, but it's hard to imagine that UNC with its $20m NIL budget can't make him a substantially better deal IF UNC really wanted him. I'm reasonably confident that with 10x the NIL budget, the #3 RB at UNC is making A LOT more NIL than the #1 guy at UNM...but obviously, we don't know for sure. Again, theres a pretty high probability that UNC either pulled the offer or made any NIL money conditional.

I do wish the kid well. Hes a total stud & was a great representative for MSU. And, yeah, a guy like Scottre is likely to go from $10-$20k in NIL in Bozeman to $75-$100k (maybe more if hes a starter) in Albuquerque.

But I'm with the posters before: These sorts of really unimpressive deals for top tier transfers are likely to be a decent selling point for recruiting here:

Come to Bozeman & compete for national championships and make $20k/year plus get decent NFL exposure or make $75k to go 1-10 in a G5 conference that probably isn't even going to host a Pro Day.

I think Bozeman is a pretty compelling sell under those circumstances.

I am not sure how you grew up, but $100,000 is life changing to a 20 year old. They go from having nothing in their pocket to being able to buy a car, nice shoes, better clothes and spending money in a restaurant. I am not talking about buying a tricked out Escalade, but maybe a small SUV to just get around.

As for the NFL, they will find you anywhere. The Mountain West has more NFL guys than the Big Sky. There will be plenty of scouts watching their games, even if they are not at home.

I am the first to say MSU is the ideal location for a college kid, but reality is that we will be losing prospects every year to G5 and higher. It doesn’t have to be an SEC school, it could just as easily be a MW school.

MSU recently signed a couple of standout JUCO guys. They have high potential and should shine for us. But they are not coming for a paycheck. They are coming to play for a winning program that will give them greater exposure to P5 schools. I fully expect that FCS will be filled with JUCO kids and FBS washouts. The P5 and G5 will continue to cherry pick the best FCS kids every year.

Bozeman, but that was 30 years ago when $100k WAS life changing. Like I said in an earlier post, 20 year old drywall hangers in Bozeman are making $100k/year. $60k is an entry level job for an 18 year old.

If low skilled workers are STARTING at $60k, its really hard to characterize a $100k "salary" as somehow a life changer.

And Scottre was making $10-$20k in NIL here in Bozeman...plus he could have had a summer job at another $10-$15k, so his net payday for going to a crappy MWC team is more like $50 or $60k.

Yeah, we are going to lose dudes to G5 teams...but thats mostly because young men are not known for making the best choices.

Why don’t you go GIVE $100,000 to a 20 year old drywall hanger and see if it changes his life? I can guarantee you that it would.

Why would I do that? I pay people for their work, just like Scottre will get paid for his work.

I honestly don't remotely understand what you are even trying to say.

Seriously man! MSU can’t pay $100,000 for a kid to play football. Other schools can’t. Scottre went where he had the best deal for him. It is not that complicated.

Yes. Scottre went to where he thought was the best deal. Everyone agrees with that.

But he clearly entered the portal thinking he was going to get offers and NIL from P5 schools like North Carolina which turned out not to be the case. For whatever reason, P5 schools didn't offer any NIL money or they pulled their offers.

And at that point, it was too late to come back to Bozeman so he was stuck with a crappy situation with mediocre money and a terrible team.

I'll still root for the kid. But I think we can all rest assured that when he put his name in the portal, UNM for a high 5 figure NIL wasn't what he had in mind.

You sound like his agent and are privy to the details…. Quite frankly, you don’t have any idea what he was offered and why he went to UNM. The only thing we can be 100% certain is that Scottre picked the best location for him and that he served MSU well while he was a Bobcat. I love MSU just as much as any fan, but I don’t pretend that kids should stay here at their own financial sacrifice.

I once beat a dead horse...I found it to be ineffective....

[WetBreeches]

No drywall laborer is making 6 figures in Bozeman.

You obviously haven't been to Bozeman in a long time. Not only is a $100k drywall hanger (not laborer) making $100k, thats considered a bit on the cheap side.

Entry level laborers are making $30/hr or $70k/year with a bit of OT.

If you’re talking about an owner, yeah, you’re likely right, although I doubt there’s a plethora of 20 year olds that own a drywall hanging company.

I not only live in Bozeman, but I’ve built within the last few years. I have a pretty decent idea what going rate is.

Thanks for exposing yourself as a cheap bastard! Not paying 6 digits for drywall!?!?!?! (heavy dose of sarcasm).