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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:14 am

I’m not trying to take away from any of MSU’s athletes, because you don’t test well without working extremely hard and already being a good athlete, but Sean Herrin is really freaking good at his job.

I know that most of these guys have been training with specialists for the pro day, but he laid the base. And when you compare the results to, say, UM, for the last few years it’s pretty drastic. I think the easiest, logical (:lol:) conclusion is that MSU is recruiting better athletes than UM, and our S&C program is a lot better than theirs.



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by mslacatfan » Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:22 am

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Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:14 am
I’m not trying to take away from any of MSU’s athletes, because you don’t test well without working extremely hard and already being a good athlete, but Sean Herrin is really freaking good at his job.

I know that most of these guys have been training with specialists for the pro day, but he laid the base. And when you compare the results to, say, UM, for the last few years it’s pretty drastic. I think the easiest, logical (:lol:) conclusion is that MSU is recruiting better athletes than UM, and our S&C program is a lot better than theirs.

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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by lutecat » Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:28 am

CodyCat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:01 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:11 am
BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:56 pm
Tommy = Julian Edelman type
Of prospect. Edelman played qb in college and I think he gets on the right team he can be that guy. As much as I hate them I think chiefs with Andy Reid would be an ideal spot. Or a Taysom hill type of player for the broncos and Sean Payton.
Here’s what’s crazy: Tommy is WAY more athletic than Julian Edelman. He’s also more athletic than Troy Andersen….

Covered the Big Sky for 19 years. Best pro day I’ve ever seen and that doesn’t just mean Tommy.

But Tommy… the median time was 4.39….I had him at 4.31 and 4.34. He’s the fastest guy in the history of the Big Sky.

What show will you be talking and recapping MSU’s pro day?
I imagine he talked about it on his ESPN show on Friday afternoon. And if not then, Monday afternoon.



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by nanacat » Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:54 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:14 am
I’m not trying to take away from any of MSU’s athletes, because you don’t test well without working extremely hard and already being a good athlete, but Sean Herrin is really freaking good at his job.

I know that most of these guys have been training with specialists for the pro day, but he laid the base. And when you compare the results to, say, UM, for the last few years it’s pretty drastic. I think the easiest, logical (:lol:) conclusion is that MSU is recruiting better athletes than UM, and our S&C program is a lot better than theirs.
I was thinking this exact thing, and Tommy also spoke to it in his interview. It cannot be overstated what Coach Herrin has brought to the MSU Football program. Bobcat football is a program, a well-oiled machine from the top down. But the S&C is at another level. Coach Herrin lays a solid foundation that makes it possible for guys to show out like they did yesterday. I sure hope he's getting paid what he's worth!



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:57 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:14 am
I’m not trying to take away from any of MSU’s athletes, because you don’t test well without working extremely hard and already being a good athlete, but Sean Herrin is really freaking good at his job.

I know that most of these guys have been training with specialists for the pro day, but he laid the base. And when you compare the results to, say, UM, for the last few years it’s pretty drastic. I think the easiest, logical (:lol:) conclusion is that MSU is recruiting better athletes than UM, and our S&C program is a lot better than theirs.
Several, if not all, the MSU players that worked with Pro Day specialist trainers said Herrin did more for them than the specialist.

That's been the logical conclusion for a few years now. The S&C, nutrition, practices...everything that goes into development at MSU is better than anyone in the BSC and is in the top 3 in the FCS along with NDSU and SDSU. Those three teams are all on a par with each other IMO.


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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:03 am

lutecat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:28 am
CodyCat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:01 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:11 am
BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:56 pm
Tommy = Julian Edelman type
Of prospect. Edelman played qb in college and I think he gets on the right team he can be that guy. As much as I hate them I think chiefs with Andy Reid would be an ideal spot. Or a Taysom hill type of player for the broncos and Sean Payton.
Here’s what’s crazy: Tommy is WAY more athletic than Julian Edelman. He’s also more athletic than Troy Andersen….

Covered the Big Sky for 19 years. Best pro day I’ve ever seen and that doesn’t just mean Tommy.

But Tommy… the median time was 4.39….I had him at 4.31 and 4.34. He’s the fastest guy in the history of the Big Sky.

What show will you be talking and recapping MSU’s pro day?
I imagine he talked about it on his ESPN show on Friday afternoon. And if not then, Monday afternoon.



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by Colter_Nuanez » Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:05 am

nanacat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:54 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:14 am
I’m not trying to take away from any of MSU’s athletes, because you don’t test well without working extremely hard and already being a good athlete, but Sean Herrin is really freaking good at his job.

I know that most of these guys have been training with specialists for the pro day, but he laid the base. And when you compare the results to, say, UM, for the last few years it’s pretty drastic. I think the easiest, logical (:lol:) conclusion is that MSU is recruiting better athletes than UM, and our S&C program is a lot better than theirs.
I was thinking this exact thing, and Tommy also spoke to it in his interview. It cannot be overstated what Coach Herrin has brought to the MSU Football program. Bobcat football is a program, a well-oiled machine from the top down. But the S&C is at another level. Coach Herrin lays a solid foundation that makes it possible for guys to show out like they did yesterday. I sure hope he's getting paid what he's worth!



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by nanacat » Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:17 am

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:11 am
BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:56 pm
Tommy = Julian Edelman type
Of prospect. Edelman played qb in college and I think he gets on the right team he can be that guy. As much as I hate them I think chiefs with Andy Reid would be an ideal spot. Or a Taysom hill type of player for the broncos and Sean Payton.
Here’s what’s crazy: Tommy is WAY more athletic than Julian Edelman. He’s also more athletic than Troy Andersen….

Covered the Big Sky for 19 years. Best pro day I’ve ever seen and that doesn’t just mean Tommy.

But Tommy… the median time was 4.39….I had him at 4.31 and 4.34. He’s the fastest guy in the history of the Big Sky.

I would like to think that the NFL is paying attention to Tommy because of all the intangibles he brings. But in college they often select "Athletes" and then put them in a position. I know there are a few cases in the NFL where a player gets moved to a different position than they played in college, but I feel like that rarely happens. Is it hurting Tommy's draft stock that he's not competing as a QB, but rather as a "use me where you need me" type player? I mean he will certainly be the first one to practice, the last one to leave, will have the playbook memorized in the first week, and will never bring shame to the league by beating up his girlfriend, or other unsavory behaviors, but will those things be enough to get him a real shot?



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:48 am

nanacat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:17 am
Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:11 am
BlueNGoldTilIDie wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:56 pm
Tommy = Julian Edelman type
Of prospect. Edelman played qb in college and I think he gets on the right team he can be that guy. As much as I hate them I think chiefs with Andy Reid would be an ideal spot. Or a Taysom hill type of player for the broncos and Sean Payton.
Here’s what’s crazy: Tommy is WAY more athletic than Julian Edelman. He’s also more athletic than Troy Andersen….

Covered the Big Sky for 19 years. Best pro day I’ve ever seen and that doesn’t just mean Tommy.

But Tommy… the median time was 4.39….I had him at 4.31 and 4.34. He’s the fastest guy in the history of the Big Sky.

I would like to think that the NFL is paying attention to Tommy because of all the intangibles he brings. But in college they often select "Athletes" and then put them in a position. I know there are a few cases in the NFL where a player gets moved to a different position than they played in college, but I feel like that rarely happens. Is it hurting Tommy's draft stock that he's not competing as a QB, but rather as a "use me where you need me" type player? I mean he will certainly be the first one to practice, the last one to leave, will have the playbook memorized in the first week, and will never bring shame to the league by beating up his girlfriend, or other unsavory behaviors, but will those things be enough to get him a real shot?
It’s not hurting his draft stock that he’s not trying to be a QB in the NFL because he’s not a QB in the NFL. If he was resolute on being a QB, he wouldn’t play in the NFL. Plain and simple. He has a chance at the league primarily because he’s an elite athlete, because he’s been very successful as a player, and because of his intangibles. At the end of the day though, his elite athleticism is why he’ll get a chance.



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by Bocephus » Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:14 pm

AFCAT wrote:
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I argued with a fellow cat fan at one of the playoff games that Tommy would beat Ashton Jeanty's NFL combine 40 time. He said I was crazy. Jeanty skipped the 40, but I think he is tabbed for a 4.42. Who's crazy now?!



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:59 pm

Bocephus wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:14 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:23 am
I argued with a fellow cat fan at one of the playoff games that Tommy would beat Ashton Jeanty's NFL combine 40 time. He said I was crazy. Jeanty skipped the 40, but I think he is tabbed for a 4.42. Who's crazy now?!
If Jeanty ran a low 4.4 he wouldn’t have skipped the 40.

I also think it’s important to note that a pro day 40 will almost always be faster than a combine 40.



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Post by Colter_Nuanez » Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:09 pm

Tommy Mellott would beat most players in college football in the 40. I had him at 4.31 and 4.33.

This got stuck on my alternative ipad. Finally got the video off of it haha.




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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by CodyCat » Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:51 pm

Colter_Nuanez wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:05 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:54 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:14 am
I’m not trying to take away from any of MSU’s athletes, because you don’t test well without working extremely hard and already being a good athlete, but Sean Herrin is really freaking good at his job.

I know that most of these guys have been training with specialists for the pro day, but he laid the base. And when you compare the results to, say, UM, for the last few years it’s pretty drastic. I think the easiest, logical (:lol:) conclusion is that MSU is recruiting better athletes than UM, and our S&C program is a lot better than theirs.
I was thinking this exact thing, and Tommy also spoke to it in his interview. It cannot be overstated what Coach Herrin has brought to the MSU Football program. Bobcat football is a program, a well-oiled machine from the top down. But the S&C is at another level. Coach Herrin lays a solid foundation that makes it possible for guys to show out like they did yesterday. I sure hope he's getting paid what he's worth!
Thank you. I was able to listen to both on our long drive home from southern Utah.


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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

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Brody obviously showed why DE was a great position for him to play in college. But Brody would've been an insane offensive football player. Think Derryk Snell only faster and more athletic.


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Post by wbtfg » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:50 am

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Brody obviously showed why DE was a great position for him to play in college. But Brody would've been an insane offensive football player. Think Derryk Snell only faster and more athletic.
I remember at one point Choate talked about Grebe being a Troy Andersen type where they envisioned some packages on offense for him.


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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by Travelingcat » Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:14 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
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Brody obviously showed why DE was a great position for him to play in college. But Brody would've been an insane offensive football player. Think Derryk Snell only faster and more athletic.

Obviously Brody would be an elite athlete for an NFL fullback-- which is why he shouldn't play fullback, a position that is marginal from a roster perspective and never earns big $.

He should obviously try first as a DE or LB-- he'd be a strong athlete for either position, though undersized at DE. If he truly can't hack it there, he can try being a FB.



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by nanacat » Tue Apr 08, 2025 5:56 pm

Some quotes from Vigen in this article.
From Walter Payton Award to NFL prospect: 'I'd bet on Tommy Mellott' - https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... my-mellott



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Re: Pro Day and Draft Prospects

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:08 am

I didn't see anything on O'Reilly. Did he not participate in the Pro Day?


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