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Re: 2025 Breakout and Expected Improved Players

Post by kwcat » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:44 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am
kwcat wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 4:30 pm
Per VIM

Vigen has named the following players at some point during interviews during spring ball (not including known commodities):

Offense:

Jacob Trimble - WR
Javonte King - WR
Jabez Woods - WR
Everett Carr - OL
Samora Ezekiel - OL
Tommy Nilson - OL
Dylan Rollins - OL
Braden Zimmer - OL (Braden's added a bunch of weight as he came in really light for OL)

Defense:

Takhari Carr - CB
Taki Uluilakepa - S
Tayden Gray - S
Jhase McMillan - CB
Seth Johnson - CB
Carson Williams - CB
Cole Taylor - LB
Ryan Krahe - LB
Hunter Sharbono - DT
Talon Marsh - DT
Hudson Wiens - DT


On defense, I also like what I see out of Brock Steel
I think Colson Coon only gets better at running back as well.
Any word on progress of JJ Dolan? He was highly sought after coming out of high school. Hopefully he’s filled out and put some weight on.
I won't go into the details, but the guys off that list that I think will almost certainly stand out are Taki, Gray, McMillan, Sharbono, Marsh, Taylor, Rollins, Carr, King and Trimble. Most of them have already gotten some solid playing time, so just basing that on what I've seen.

I really think Trimble cam be a top-notch receiver. Taki and Gray will be two of the better DBs in the BSC next year.

The DT rotation is lethal. That might be the marquee unit on the team. Sharbono, Eckert, Marsh, Brott, Black. Wow. DE is going to be extremely good, too. Look out for Dominic Solano.

So, the rest of guys on that list are intriguing. It'll be interesting to see if they're still making noise or making more noise before camp lets out.
I agree 100% that our defensive line is gonna be good. Including the ends. Eiden is gonna cause a lot of problems for offenses.
Going to be tough on the defensive backfield with their first game. Baptism by fire. We seem to be filling in, but still have a lot of question marks at corner and safety and Nickelback.
Linebackers will be serviceable, but still need a couple to step up and replace the noticeable absence of Dan U



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Re: 2025 Breakout and Expected Improved Players

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:38 pm

kwcat wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:44 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am
kwcat wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 4:30 pm
Per VIM

Vigen has named the following players at some point during interviews during spring ball (not including known commodities):

Offense:

Jacob Trimble - WR
Javonte King - WR
Jabez Woods - WR
Everett Carr - OL
Samora Ezekiel - OL
Tommy Nilson - OL
Dylan Rollins - OL
Braden Zimmer - OL (Braden's added a bunch of weight as he came in really light for OL)

Defense:

Takhari Carr - CB
Taki Uluilakepa - S
Tayden Gray - S
Jhase McMillan - CB
Seth Johnson - CB
Carson Williams - CB
Cole Taylor - LB
Ryan Krahe - LB
Hunter Sharbono - DT
Talon Marsh - DT
Hudson Wiens - DT


On defense, I also like what I see out of Brock Steel
I think Colson Coon only gets better at running back as well.
Any word on progress of JJ Dolan? He was highly sought after coming out of high school. Hopefully he’s filled out and put some weight on.
I won't go into the details, but the guys off that list that I think will almost certainly stand out are Taki, Gray, McMillan, Sharbono, Marsh, Taylor, Rollins, Carr, King and Trimble. Most of them have already gotten some solid playing time, so just basing that on what I've seen.

I really think Trimble cam be a top-notch receiver. Taki and Gray will be two of the better DBs in the BSC next year.

The DT rotation is lethal. That might be the marquee unit on the team. Sharbono, Eckert, Marsh, Brott, Black. Wow. DE is going to be extremely good, too. Look out for Dominic Solano.

So, the rest of guys on that list are intriguing. It'll be interesting to see if they're still making noise or making more noise before camp lets out.
I agree 100% that our defensive line is gonna be good. Including the ends. Eiden is gonna cause a lot of problems for offenses.
Going to be tough on the defensive backfield with their first game. Baptism by fire. We seem to be filling in, but still have a lot of question marks at corner and safety and Nickelback.
Linebackers will be serviceable, but still need a couple to step up and replace the noticeable absence of Dan U
I'm not trying to minimize other units/positions, but I'd rather have my best units be the OL and DL and go from there. Those two can make the other units look better more so than LBs, DBs making the DL better or the RBs, WRs making the OL better. QBs can be very effective that way, too, but they're a lot easier to negate than the OL.

Mellott, for as great as he is, may not have made that much of difference in the W/L column last year. I think the EWU and USD games were his biggest in that regard. He did a ton to get MSU back in the game vs NDSU but that was a loss. MSU simply overpowered teams in the trenches all year and that paved the way.

If the DL is as good as I think it is in 2025, then the LBs and DBs should be productive in 2025. If not, then they'd have to be very lacking in talent.


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Re: 2025 Breakout and Expected Improved Players

Post by kwcat » Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:36 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:38 pm
kwcat wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:44 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am
kwcat wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 4:30 pm
Per VIM

Vigen has named the following players at some point during interviews during spring ball (not including known commodities):

Offense:

Jacob Trimble - WR
Javonte King - WR
Jabez Woods - WR
Everett Carr - OL
Samora Ezekiel - OL
Tommy Nilson - OL
Dylan Rollins - OL
Braden Zimmer - OL (Braden's added a bunch of weight as he came in really light for OL)

Defense:

Takhari Carr - CB
Taki Uluilakepa - S
Tayden Gray - S
Jhase McMillan - CB
Seth Johnson - CB
Carson Williams - CB
Cole Taylor - LB
Ryan Krahe - LB
Hunter Sharbono - DT
Talon Marsh - DT
Hudson Wiens - DT


On defense, I also like what I see out of Brock Steel
I think Colson Coon only gets better at running back as well.
Any word on progress of JJ Dolan? He was highly sought after coming out of high school. Hopefully he’s filled out and put some weight on.
I won't go into the details, but the guys off that list that I think will almost certainly stand out are Taki, Gray, McMillan, Sharbono, Marsh, Taylor, Rollins, Carr, King and Trimble. Most of them have already gotten some solid playing time, so just basing that on what I've seen.

I really think Trimble cam be a top-notch receiver. Taki and Gray will be two of the better DBs in the BSC next year.

The DT rotation is lethal. That might be the marquee unit on the team. Sharbono, Eckert, Marsh, Brott, Black. Wow. DE is going to be extremely good, too. Look out for Dominic Solano.

So, the rest of guys on that list are intriguing. It'll be interesting to see if they're still making noise or making more noise before camp lets out.
I agree 100% that our defensive line is gonna be good. Including the ends. Eiden is gonna cause a lot of problems for offenses.
Going to be tough on the defensive backfield with their first game. Baptism by fire. We seem to be filling in, but still have a lot of question marks at corner and safety and Nickelback.
Linebackers will be serviceable, but still need a couple to step up and replace the noticeable absence of Dan U
I'm not trying to minimize other units/positions, but I'd rather have my best units be the OL and DL and go from there. Those two can make the other units look better more so than LBs, DBs making the DL better or the RBs, WRs making the OL better. QBs can be very effective that way, too, but they're a lot easier to negate than the OL.

Mellott, for as great as he is, may not have made that much of difference in the W/L column last year. I think the EWU and USD games were his biggest in that regard. He did a ton to get MSU back in the game vs NDSU but that was a loss. MSU simply overpowered teams in the trenches all year and that paved the way.

If the DL is as good as I think it is in 2025, then the LBs and DBs should be productive in 2025. If not, then they'd have to be very lacking in talent.
Individual units being strong can certainly help the team be a greater sum than all of its parts, but to be great we need to fill in those?. I think Tommy made a bigger difference than many of us realize but did it so quietly and consistently at times that we missed it often. But he was one part of a great team.



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Re: 2025 Breakout and Expected Improved Players

Post by kwcat » Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:44 pm

On the offensive side, I hear little bits and pieces on the quarterback battle, but nothing definitive. At running back we’ve got good returning talent, but need to be a couple of quality individuals deeper.



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Re: 2025 Breakout and Expected Improved Players

Post by iaafan » Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:35 pm

kwcat wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:36 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:38 pm
kwcat wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:44 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am
kwcat wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 4:30 pm
Per VIM

Vigen has named the following players at some point during interviews during spring ball (not including known commodities):

Offense:

Jacob Trimble - WR
Javonte King - WR
Jabez Woods - WR
Everett Carr - OL
Samora Ezekiel - OL
Tommy Nilson - OL
Dylan Rollins - OL
Braden Zimmer - OL (Braden's added a bunch of weight as he came in really light for OL)

Defense:

Takhari Carr - CB
Taki Uluilakepa - S
Tayden Gray - S
Jhase McMillan - CB
Seth Johnson - CB
Carson Williams - CB
Cole Taylor - LB
Ryan Krahe - LB
Hunter Sharbono - DT
Talon Marsh - DT
Hudson Wiens - DT


On defense, I also like what I see out of Brock Steel
I think Colson Coon only gets better at running back as well.
Any word on progress of JJ Dolan? He was highly sought after coming out of high school. Hopefully he’s filled out and put some weight on.
I won't go into the details, but the guys off that list that I think will almost certainly stand out are Taki, Gray, McMillan, Sharbono, Marsh, Taylor, Rollins, Carr, King and Trimble. Most of them have already gotten some solid playing time, so just basing that on what I've seen.

I really think Trimble cam be a top-notch receiver. Taki and Gray will be two of the better DBs in the BSC next year.

The DT rotation is lethal. That might be the marquee unit on the team. Sharbono, Eckert, Marsh, Brott, Black. Wow. DE is going to be extremely good, too. Look out for Dominic Solano.

So, the rest of guys on that list are intriguing. It'll be interesting to see if they're still making noise or making more noise before camp lets out.
I agree 100% that our defensive line is gonna be good. Including the ends. Eiden is gonna cause a lot of problems for offenses.
Going to be tough on the defensive backfield with their first game. Baptism by fire. We seem to be filling in, but still have a lot of question marks at corner and safety and Nickelback.
Linebackers will be serviceable, but still need a couple to step up and replace the noticeable absence of Dan U
I'm not trying to minimize other units/positions, but I'd rather have my best units be the OL and DL and go from there. Those two can make the other units look better more so than LBs, DBs making the DL better or the RBs, WRs making the OL better. QBs can be very effective that way, too, but they're a lot easier to negate than the OL.

Mellott, for as great as he is, may not have made that much of difference in the W/L column last year. I think the EWU and USD games were his biggest in that regard. He did a ton to get MSU back in the game vs NDSU but that was a loss. MSU simply overpowered teams in the trenches all year and that paved the way.

If the DL is as good as I think it is in 2025, then the LBs and DBs should be productive in 2025. If not, then they'd have to be very lacking in talent.
Individual units being strong can certainly help the team be a greater sum than all of its parts, but to be great we need to fill in those?. I think Tommy made a bigger difference than many of us realize but did it so quietly and consistently at times that we missed it often. But he was one part of a great team.
I rarely recall Tommy needing to talk to the offense much. That’s a tribute to the coaches and players. He made a difference in that we won games by larger margins than we normally would have. That allowed lots of backup players to get snaps. We were capable of winning every game without him. Not sure we would have but we were definitely capable. That’s not a knock on him, it’s just how good the football program has become. Above average to great across the board unit by unit.



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