Bobcats vs Yale - Not the Official Game Day Thread

[onceacat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Leave the politics & personal ideological persecution complex aside. Students at Ivy Leagues by and large have heavier academic loads than students at other schools. And football players at the vast majority of schools don't have to meet those standards. This is in no way a secret, or shocking, or surprising.

Does that mean that EVERY SINGLE football player at Yale has a harder academic load than EVERY SINGLE player everywhere else? Obviously not, but to pretend as though the average football player at MSU has a similar academic load to the average player at Yale is laughable.

And, to be clear, the average football player at MSU devotes a lot more time to football than the average football player at Yale, and it showed up in the final score.

[onceacat]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

Coach Reno didn't go to Yale, he went to Worchester State.

[grizzh8r]

This whole staff should be gone after this performance.

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[SCVBobcat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

[onceacat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

He said they "go to real school."

This is factually true. Most football players don't. I don't understand how thats arrogance. It's just factually true. The guys playing football for Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia today don't need to go to school or take exams. (Although some of them choose to do so...for most college football players, thats a choice, not a requirement)

Why on earth is this controversial?

This no-nonsense factual description of reality seems to have hit a really raw nerve for a lot of folks on BN.

[onceacat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

Having a teacher or a boss with a different political persuasion than you is 'ideological persecution'?

Wow.

I guess we should all be so lucky as to live in a bubble where we never have to encounter someone who has a different political ideology.

[technoCat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

He said they "go to real school."

This is factually true. Most football players don't. I don't understand how thats arrogance. It's just factually true. The guys playing football for Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia today don't need to go to school or take exams. (Although some of them choose to do so...for most college football players, thats a choice, not a requirement)

Why on earth is this controversial?

This no-nonsense factual description of reality seems to have hit a really raw nerve for a lot of folks on BN.

Boy this seems like a very odd hill to die on. It was very clear their coach was taking a direct shot at our team and school. You can try to explain it away all you like but it reeked of east coast elitism.

[SCVBobcat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

Having a teacher or a boss with a different political persuasion than you is 'ideological persecution'?

Wow.

I guess we should all be so lucky as to live in a bubble where we never have to encounter someone who has a different political ideology.

You're missing my point. My point is that because 90-97% of Yale and other Ivy League profs are of the same political persuasion, their students are note encountering professors with different viewpoints. I'll bet the profs at MSU are much more diverse in their viewpoints.

You're right - politics has no place on this board. But that coach needs to clarify.

[mtkaren]

[onceacat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

Having a teacher or a boss with a different political persuasion than you is 'ideological persecution'?

Wow.

I guess we should all be so lucky as to live in a bubble where we never have to encounter someone who has a different political ideology.

You're missing my point. My point is that because 90-97% of Yale and other Ivy League profs are of the same political persuasion, their students are note encountering professors with different viewpoints. I'll bet the profs at MSU are much more diverse in their viewpoints.

I'm guessing you didn't go to Yale. Or maybe you did...

Maybe. I wouldn't know, because its never occurred to me to ask a professional their political persuasion before I hired them for a job.

[coloradocat]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

[onceacat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

He said they "go to real school."

This is factually true. Most football players don't. I don't understand how thats arrogance. It's just factually true. The guys playing football for Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia today don't need to go to school or take exams. (Although some of them choose to do so...for most college football players, thats a choice, not a requirement)

Why on earth is this controversial?

This no-nonsense factual description of reality seems to have hit a really raw nerve for a lot of folks on BN.

Boy this seems like a very odd hill to die on. It was very clear their coach was taking a direct shot at our team and school. You can try to explain it away all you like but it reeked of east coast elitism.

It clearly wasn't. He said "These guys go to real school and take real finals."

Most football players don't.

If you want to take that as a direct shot or east coast elitism or whatever, that reflects a lot more on you than it does on him.

Do you REALLY HONESTLY believe the guys that we are watching today in UGA-'Mama and OSU-Indiana go to real school?

Because thy don't. They are professional athletes. They don't have time for real school.

[SCVBobcat]

Reports of grade inflation in the Ivy League have been around decades. Here's one that just came out: https://manhattan.institute/article/how ... pply-of-as.

I guarantee you that engineering majors at MSU have to work harder than 75% of the majors at Yale. A lot of the other non-STEM majors probably match up pretty evenly. Ivy League is a lot about having the right political viewpoint these days, sometimes even in STEM. How do you think a brilliant conservative student would be graded in their social science and English courses there? Sorry, straying from football a bit but that comment from their coach hit a nerve. Don't think for a moment that most adults there aren't in an arrogant ivy tower bubble, and some of the players probably pick it up as well. Woke up this morning expecting their coaches and players to be classier than most, but not so sure now...

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, JD Vance, Josh Hawley and Brett Kavenagh are all alums of Yale Law. Ron DeSantis went there as an undergrad.

Is that the 'Right Political Viewpoint' you are talking about?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said the word "conservative". Yale and other Ivy professors' political affiliation is slanted 90% for one party, or up to 97% in the humanities and social sciences. That's the epitome of "ideological persecution". That and thinking you're a real school and others are not is dangerous. Their coach made an arrogant comment and deserves to be called out for it, here and in other venues.

Having a teacher or a boss with a different political persuasion than you is 'ideological persecution'?

Wow.

I guess we should all be so lucky as to live in a bubble where we never have to encounter someone who has a different political ideology.

You're missing my point. My point is that because 90-97% of Yale and other Ivy League profs are of the same political persuasion, their students are note encountering professors with different viewpoints. I'll bet the profs at MSU are much more diverse in their viewpoints.

I'm guessing you didn't go to Yale. Or maybe you did...

Maybe. I wouldn't know, because its never occurred to me to ask a professional their political persuasion before I hired them for a job.

Apparently the Ivy Leagues do, or their professors wouldn't be 95% the same political persuasion.

[CheddaBobCat]

Man, pretty cool that the Cats take home win in December. How many teams get to say that? Oh, just 8 others. In the entire nation....

Who cares what some random DC from the losing school had to say about academics? We are here because we love FOOTBALL. Not to rub shoulders with crusty elites. Stop worrying about what this random coach has to say. They get to hold this L forever! In 10 years, will the kids remember the exact score they got in their finals or the score of their loss at Bobcat Stadium?...

Go Cats Go!

[84CatGrad]

Hats off to Yale. Gave us a very, very tough game. But unlike NDSU, who lost despite playing a team they beat previously 33-16 on the road, and despite picking off five passes, we survived. The coach's comment? Matters not. We are still standing. Time to prepare for SFA.

[GoodTimesAllTheTime]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

[onceacat]

That looks to be the DC, not the Head Coach? The "real school" is definitely a shot at MSU. Doesn't the HC face the masses after a loss? Compare this to Vigen, who is nothing but gracious.

I no I am many more stupier than anybody with the Y their jacket and hat, but if Coach Reno has a minute to explain, I'd love to hear the Statistics textbook rationale for going for 2 via a reverse pass by the WR when down 8 with 14 minutes left. But then, I didn't go to 2 real schools to get my CPA and MBA so I may need an interpreter.

It is objectively the right decision to go for 2 down 8 in the fourth quarter. It gives you a higher chance to win the game. The big mistake Yale’s coach made was not going for 2 again at the end of the game.

Huh? The missed 2pt meant that Yale would need a 2point conversion to tie. It was a terrible call. And poorly executed.

[onceacat]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

[MSU01]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

[technoCat]

@onceacat You're strenuous defense of the Ivies is odd. Did you, or your family, go to one of the schools or something?

I went to both Montana schools. But I know tons of people that went to Ivies. A dozen or so kids from Bozeman do every year (including my DIL).

But it’s just the victim complex that the snowflakes here keep whining about that drives me bonkers.

Coach said a true thing, but BN gets its panties all in a bunch cause he said something 100% true.

Whiney victim snowflakes drive me bonkers. It’s a bad look for BN.

Hey just calling it like I see it. I didn't have to resort to insulting you because I knew my point had merit. Typical of people like you to project what you know you really are. I just actually take pride in my Alma mater and know guys that get on national scholar athlete lists from MSU work just as hard if not harder than players from Yale do. Keep defending a statement obviously made for us, not USC or Ohio State or any other FBS school that I'm sure the coach was totally thinking of when he said it. Im done with you, have fun in your ivory tower.