Bobcats vs Yale - Not the Official Game Day Thread

[Colter_Nuanez]

[technoCat]

So question about the 4th down by Yale before they scored, did they take a timeout? If they did, I missed it and they measured when they were clearly short and saved them going to the 2 minute warning.

No time out, the coach requested a measurement and the refs granted it. Very smart move on his part to save some time.

Yeah smart but the refs shouldn't have granted it. They needed to make the 5 yard line and they were short. It wasn't like they needed to eyeball it and couldn't tell.

True, shouldn't have been granted but the coach was smart to give it a shot.

Can't you request so you know how far you need.

Yeah, it's not like I'm accusing him of breaking any rules. It was smart and pretty much gave them a free timeout AND saved the 2 minute warning. Just really aggravated me in the moment when the ball is 8 inches from the 5 yard line and you know you have to get to the 5 yard line.

[coloradocat]

Was the hold on Titan on the fake punt really a hold or was that a bad call? I don't know the rule but blocking a guy so hard you pancake him isn't a hold so were his hands too far outside the guys shoulder pads? The tv analyst was making it sound like a good call but he is also a former defensive player so I kind of just ignored his commentary.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Was the hold on Titan on the fake punt really a hold or was that a bad call? I don't know the rule but blocking a guy so hard you pancake him isn't a hold so were his hands too far outside the guys shoulder pads? The tv analyst was making it sound like a good call but he is also a former defensive player so I kind of just ignored his commentary.

It was a horrid call.

[Clinton T]

Was the hold on Titan on the fake punt really a hold or was that a bad call? I don't know the rule but blocking a guy so hard you pancake him isn't a hold so were his hands too far outside the guys shoulder pads? The tv analyst was making it sound like a good call but he is also a former defensive player so I kind of just ignored his commentary.

It was a horrid call.

When a lineman gets his hands outside of the pads, especially on the edge, doesn't that almost always get called?

[TomCat88]

What a strange arrogant press conference by Yale.

Did you catch the "real school" comment?

I'm curious. Hopefully Skyline or someone can post a video.

The coach was reminding the press that his team just played 12 games in a row and are still students and are probably concerned about finals. i don't remember the exact comment but it was in that context. The "real" is what got me. A very Yale comment. Kind of inferring that everyone else is just a college kid but they are university students.

Comment is at 4:19. You can tell the intent by 7s reaction.

Seems pretty spot on. Football players at other schools with Ivy League level academics like USC, Michigan, UNC, Duke, Stanford, Texas, etc mostly don't need to study for exams.

This isn't a secret or a surprise or in any way shocking. Its something every single one of us says all the time.

But students at MSU and most FCS schools do. Yale isn't playing FBS.

Their DC is called the “head coach of the defense” lol

Maybe I don’t know what snowflake means but…

“Not to make excuses, but these kids go to school. They go to a real school. They’re challenged academically. They’re probably sitting here worried about exams right now. It’s a credit to them that they can balance all that and be as competitive as we are.”

Not to make excuses? Then make excuses? lol I don’t he went to an Ivy League school. The reaction by Pitsenberger. Too funny and so stereotypical.

The school stuff was a big part of the smack flying around before, during and after the game. I have a hard time believing that this was an innocuous, oh-by-the-way comment.

But whatever. It was entertaining if you’re into that kind of thing.

I usually go walk around the field a couple times in pregame mostly just to burn some time and get some steps (12,270 yesterday ) but all the yelling got my attention. It went on for at least 15 minutes. I, frankly, couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Twilight Zone stuff. Yet laughable in its silliness.

[nanacat]

What a strange arrogant press conference by Yale.

Did you catch the "real school" comment?

I'm curious. Hopefully Skyline or someone can post a video.

The coach was reminding the press that his team just played 12 games in a row and are still students and are probably concerned about finals. i don't remember the exact comment but it was in that context. The "real" is what got me. A very Yale comment. Kind of inferring that everyone else is just a college kid but they are university students.

Comment is at 4:19. You can tell the intent by 7s reaction.

Seems pretty spot on. Football players at other schools with Ivy League level academics like USC, Michigan, UNC, Duke, Stanford, Texas, etc mostly don't need to study for exams.

This isn't a secret or a surprise or in any way shocking. Its something every single one of us says all the time.

But students at MSU and most FCS schools do. Yale isn't playing FBS.

Their DC is called the “head coach of the defense” lol

Maybe I don’t know what snowflake means but…

“Not to make excuses, but these kids go to school. They go to a real school. They’re challenged academically. They’re probably sitting here worried about exams right now. It’s a credit to them that they can balance all that and be as competitive as we are.”

Not to make excuses? Then make excuses? lol I don’t he went to an Ivy League school. The reaction by Pitsenberger. Too funny and so stereotypical.

The school stuff was a big part of the smack flying around before, during and after the game. I have a hard time believing that this was an innocuous, oh-by-the-way comment.

But whatever. It was entertaining if you’re into that kind of thing.

I usually go walk around the field a couple times in pregame mostly just to burn some time and get some steps (12,270 yesterday ) but all the yelling got my attention. It went on for at least 15 minutes. I, frankly, couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Twilight Zone stuff. Yet laughable in its silliness.

So clearly more than "hick" & "nerd" stuff, but wow. Does that type of trash talk usually happen pregame? Always thought pregame was to focus on the task ahead and get ready.

[nanacat]

That picture! Vigen was really upset several times during the game, and that carried to the end. Honestly I appreciated him getting fired up at the refs. Didn't really matter but man that was a poorly called game most of the time.

[brittlcky13]

Yet the majority of their majors are Political Science, Economics, or Undeclared. There are a handful of Engineering or other science majors, which are also accredited programs at MSU. Their perception of their players being "academically elite" is almost laughable.

[ZebraCat]

Was the hold on Titan on the fake punt really a hold or was that a bad call? I don't know the rule but blocking a guy so hard you pancake him isn't a hold so were his hands too far outside the guys shoulder pads? The tv analyst was making it sound like a good call but he is also a former defensive player so I kind of just ignored his commentary.

It was a horrid call.

When a lineman gets his hands outside of the pads, especially on the edge, doesn't that almost always get called?

His hands were inside the frame of the defender. He may have had a hold of his pads, but that was a block coaches show on film to show everyone what domination looks like. The defender was rewarded for being 100 pounds smaller than Titan and throwing his hands up to sell a hold because he was being pancaked into oblivion.

[Bulldog fan]

Few rambling thoughts from a Yale fan.

First, the fans were so great and welcoming. From the rental car counter to the lines to get inside and the fans after the game. We were in 124 and loved the raucous atmosphere created by the students. Not sure why two security guards went to some of the students to have them stop booing during the warmup.

Second, we were playing with house money and I thought we gave a great account for ourselves. It is ALWAYS funny to me to see different fanbases complain about officiating in the same game. That is universal in all sports.

The Bulldogs will look back having outgained MSU by 50 yards until the last two plays (sack and then scramble last play). They will say the interception with the backup QB(poor call bad decision and throw imo) the almost recovered fumble on your first TD and the pick on second and goal as big plays that determined the game. That’s what teams on the losing side do. I expect most Bobcat fans will look at the game thinking they didn’t play well and the game wasn’t as close. To the victors go the spoils and the chance to write the history.

Regarding the HC not doing pre/post game interviews, I’d suggest there might be something going on behind the scenes that has been kept in house.

To the DC’s comments it’s kind of funny. Leading up to the playoff selection and into this game, a common theme was that the Ivies couldn’t compete and should stick to chess. The shouts by the opposing fans last week and this of “NERDS!!!!!” continued that. Then the coach says something similar to that and it’s a shot.

I can’t speak for all schools but am familiar with Yale, Texas, A&M, Vanderbilt, Tulane and several other SEC schools. Yale doesn’t have any athletes on scholarship, doesn’t have an athlete academic track (the other schools I mentioned do). They don’t have separate athletic dorms, all students are mixed up throughout the 14 colleges/dorms.

This is uncharted territory for Yale. Every other season would have ended after the Harvard game and they would go to NYC the day after for the banquet and election of next year’s captain (only one captain per year). Staying and playing through finals has never been done. No clue what other teams’ players were doing but I know many players were working and submitting final papers Friday night after the walkthrough and team dinner, no athletic extensions. Finals are this week and clearly they have had a bit of a distraction.

It is a little funny to me that people complain about someone saying what they’ve been saying. I also don’t think there was a lot in the comment but can see why some may want to take it like that.

In any case great game and good luck the rest of the way!

[Bulldog fan]

Yet the majority of their majors are Political Science, Economics, or Undeclared. There are a handful of Engineering or other science majors, which are also accredited programs at MSU. Their perception of their players being "academically elite" is almost laughable.

You don’t declare a major until after your sophomore year. There also is no business major/degree so most economics degrees would be business majors at many other schools. Political Science is the pre-law track.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Was the hold on Titan on the fake punt really a hold or was that a bad call? I don't know the rule but blocking a guy so hard you pancake him isn't a hold so were his hands too far outside the guys shoulder pads? The tv analyst was making it sound like a good call but he is also a former defensive player so I kind of just ignored his commentary.

It was a horrid call.

When a lineman gets his hands outside of the pads, especially on the edge, doesn't that almost always get called?

It was a textbook pancake. I mean, teach tape. He dominated the defender so badly that they called a penalty. It was a bad call no matter what the announcer said.

[Clinton T]

Few rambling thoughts from a Yale fan.

First, the fans were so great and welcoming. From the rental car counter to the lines to get inside and the fans after the game. We were in 124 and loved the raucous atmosphere created by the students. Not sure why two security guards went to some of the students to have them stop booing during the warmup.

Second, we were playing with house money and I thought we gave a great account for ourselves. It is ALWAYS funny to me to see different fanbases complain about officiating in the same game. That is universal in all sports.

The Bulldogs will look back having outgained MSU by 50 yards until the last two plays (sack and then scramble last play). They will say the interception with the backup QB(poor call bad decision and throw imo) the almost recovered fumble on your first TD and the pick on second and goal as big plays that determined the game. That’s what teams on the losing side do. I expect most Bobcat fans will look at the game thinking they didn’t play well and the game wasn’t as close. To the victors go the spoils and the chance to write the history.

Regarding the HC not doing pre/post game interviews, I’d suggest there might be something going on behind the scenes that has been kept in house.

To the DC’s comments it’s kind of funny. Leading up to the playoff selection and into this game, a common theme was that the Ivies couldn’t compete and should stick to chess. The shouts by the opposing fans last week and this of “NERDS!!!!!” continued that. Then the coach says something similar to that and it’s a shot.

I can’t speak for all schools but am familiar with Yale, Texas, A&M, Vanderbilt, Tulane and several other SEC schools. Yale doesn’t have any athletes on scholarship, doesn’t have an athlete academic track (the other schools I mentioned do). They don’t have separate athletic dorms, all students are mixed up throughout the 14 colleges/dorms.

This is uncharted territory for Yale. Every other season would have ended after the Harvard game and they would go to NYC the day after for the banquet and election of next year’s captain (only one captain per year). Staying and playing through finals has never been done. No clue what other teams’ players were doing but I know many players were working and submitting final papers Friday night after the walkthrough and team dinner, no athletic extensions. Finals are this week and clearly they have had a bit of a distraction.

It is a little funny to me that people complain about someone saying what they’ve been saying. I also don’t think there was a lot in the comment but can see why some may want to take it like that.

In any case great game and good luck the rest of the way!

Thanks for coming over here and commenting. I was very impressed with the level of play from your team. I don’t feel like our guys played our best game, But there is no way that Yale should have been a 23.5 point underdog. They are a much better team than that! That running back is the truth! Please know that these comments are not directed at you. The whole nerd thing was in good fun and an acknowledgment of Yale‘s academic prowess. That was also done by fans of the opposing team. Fans. Not paid staff. Did you happen to listen to our coaches talk about Yale before the game? It was nothing but complementary. Your coaches refused to do any media. After the game, our coaches and players were nothing but complementary of your team and players. The players sounded arrogant and full of sour grapes. The coaches and players did not represent themselves or their university well in that moment. That coach did not sound like a leader of men. The head coach not facing the fire after a defeat certainly sends the message that he is not a leader of men.

[Bulldog fan]

Another thing that may be of interest to some but the Ivy doesn’t allow students to have a fifth year. Since most don’t play as freshmen and they can’t play a redshirt year in the Ivy, you’ll see a crap ton enter the portal with a year to play but can’t stay where they are.

[Bulldog fan]

Few rambling thoughts from a Yale fan.

First, the fans were so great and welcoming. From the rental car counter to the lines to get inside and the fans after the game. We were in 124 and loved the raucous atmosphere created by the students. Not sure why two security guards went to some of the students to have them stop booing during the warmup.

Second, we were playing with house money and I thought we gave a great account for ourselves. It is ALWAYS funny to me to see different fanbases complain about officiating in the same game. That is universal in all sports.

The Bulldogs will look back having outgained MSU by 50 yards until the last two plays (sack and then scramble last play). They will say the interception with the backup QB(poor call bad decision and throw imo) the almost recovered fumble on your first TD and the pick on second and goal as big plays that determined the game. That’s what teams on the losing side do. I expect most Bobcat fans will look at the game thinking they didn’t play well and the game wasn’t as close. To the victors go the spoils and the chance to write the history.

Regarding the HC not doing pre/post game interviews, I’d suggest there might be something going on behind the scenes that has been kept in house.

To the DC’s comments it’s kind of funny. Leading up to the playoff selection and into this game, a common theme was that the Ivies couldn’t compete and should stick to chess. The shouts by the opposing fans last week and this of “NERDS!!!!!” continued that. Then the coach says something similar to that and it’s a shot.

I can’t speak for all schools but am familiar with Yale, Texas, A&M, Vanderbilt, Tulane and several other SEC schools. Yale doesn’t have any athletes on scholarship, doesn’t have an athlete academic track (the other schools I mentioned do). They don’t have separate athletic dorms, all students are mixed up throughout the 14 colleges/dorms.

This is uncharted territory for Yale. Every other season would have ended after the Harvard game and they would go to NYC the day after for the banquet and election of next year’s captain (only one captain per year). Staying and playing through finals has never been done. No clue what other teams’ players were doing but I know many players were working and submitting final papers Friday night after the walkthrough and team dinner, no athletic extensions. Finals are this week and clearly they have had a bit of a distraction.

It is a little funny to me that people complain about someone saying what they’ve been saying. I also don’t think there was a lot in the comment but can see why some may want to take it like that.

In any case great game and good luck the rest of the way!

Thanks for coming over here and commenting. I was very impressed with the level of play from your team. I don’t feel like our guys played our best game, But there is no way that Yale should have been a 23.5 point underdog. They are a much better team than that! That running back is the truth! Please know that these comments are not directed at you. The whole nerd thing was in good fun and an acknowledgment of Yale‘s academic prowess. That was also done by fans of the opposing team. Fans. Not paid staff. Did you happen to listen to our coaches talk about Yale before the game? It was nothing but complementary. Your coaches refused to do any media. After the game, our coaches and players were nothing but complementary of your team and players. The players sounded arrogant and full of sour grapes. The coaches and players did not represent themselves or their university well in that moment. That coach did not sound like a leader of men. The head coach not facing the fire after a defeat certainly sends the message that he is not a leader of men.

Thanks I get the difference between fans and players/coaches. I don’t have a with any of it or Bobcat coaches, players or fans.

I think people will understand why the HC wasn’t there sooner rather than later. Great man, great leader but I’d ask you to trust me, a random internet guy lol that there are real reasons and private ones for his absence lately.

[Helenabobcat]

Anyone know from what conference the refs are?

Ohio Valley - a couple of them live in Tennessee

[D-Wreck]

Another thing that may be of interest to some but the Ivy doesn’t allow students to have a fifth year. Since most don’t play as freshmen and they can’t play a redshirt year in the Ivy, you’ll see a crap ton enter the portal with a year to play but can’t stay where they are.

When you say they aren't allowed a fifth year is that athletically only? Or are they limited to 4 years academically as well? I ask from a place of ignorance not criticism.

[TomCat88]

What a strange arrogant press conference by Yale.

Did you catch the "real school" comment?

I'm curious. Hopefully Skyline or someone can post a video.

The coach was reminding the press that his team just played 12 games in a row and are still students and are probably concerned about finals. i don't remember the exact comment but it was in that context. The "real" is what got me. A very Yale comment. Kind of inferring that everyone else is just a college kid but they are university students.

Comment is at 4:19. You can tell the intent by 7s reaction.

Seems pretty spot on. Football players at other schools with Ivy League level academics like USC, Michigan, UNC, Duke, Stanford, Texas, etc mostly don't need to study for exams.

This isn't a secret or a surprise or in any way shocking. Its something every single one of us says all the time.

But students at MSU and most FCS schools do. Yale isn't playing FBS.

Their DC is called the “head coach of the defense” lol

Maybe I don’t know what snowflake means but…

“Not to make excuses, but these kids go to school. They go to a real school. They’re challenged academically. They’re probably sitting here worried about exams right now. It’s a credit to them that they can balance all that and be as competitive as we are.”

Not to make excuses? Then make excuses? lol I don’t he went to an Ivy League school. The reaction by Pitsenberger. Too funny and so stereotypical.

The school stuff was a big part of the smack flying around before, during and after the game. I have a hard time believing that this was an innocuous, oh-by-the-way comment.

But whatever. It was entertaining if you’re into that kind of thing.

I usually go walk around the field a couple times in pregame mostly just to burn some time and get some steps (12,270 yesterday ) but all the yelling got my attention. It went on for at least 15 minutes. I, frankly, couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Twilight Zone stuff. Yet laughable in its silliness.

So clearly more than "hick" & "nerd" stuff, but wow. Does that type of trash talk usually happen pregame? Always thought pregame was to focus on the task ahead and get ready.

I’ve never noticed it. The players are usually focused on what they’re doing. It’s actually a pretty professional setting. Everyone has their routine they go through and they all have headphones on so they aren’t talking to anyone let alone other players. I’m not sure how it all got going yesterday. It was just a weird kinda surreal thing. Is this really happening?

Yale players were really dishing it out too. Mostly just one player for MSU. It got tiring to watch. An “okay, time to move on” moment. Like we often experience on this message board

[AFCAT]

Another thing that may be of interest to some but the Ivy doesn’t allow students to have a fifth year. Since most don’t play as freshmen and they can’t play a redshirt year in the Ivy, you’ll see a crap ton enter the portal with a year to play but can’t stay where they are.

When you say they aren't allowed a fifth year is that athletically only? Or are they limited to 4 years academically as well? I ask from a place of ignorance not criticism.

How many of the players start off at prep schools before going to Yale? That’s an extra year of development, even though they aren’t at University. Brody Grebe went through Choate Rosemary Hall, played football there, and that didn’t affect the number of years he was able to play college ball.