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Re: I see NO HOPE in reducing the toxicity

Post by Camo_Cat » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:04 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
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I love the rivalry of the Brawl of the Wild, and unlike other rivalries where I have seen the toxic behavior from fans and players go off the charts, like Ohio State-Michigan, Florida-Florida State, Miami-Florida State, etc. I have always thought we had a decent amount of mutual respect among Bobcat and Griz fans.

However, the way in which UM fans are absolutely going off right now about Vigen and the Davis incident gives me no hope. UM is taking the position that they are the "pure, wonderful, high end character" among all of FCS, while Montana State has descended into thugery among both the players as well as the coaches.

IF both UM and MSU manage to win this next weekend I'm very concerned about what the atmosphere in Bobcat Stadium will be like. Unlike regular home games, I believe the visiting team in the FCS playoffs gets a fairly sizeable number of tickets.

I am so hopeful that UM loses to South Dakota so we don't end up with what could be a very bad scene. I didn't like what Davis did but thanks to ESPN it has been blown up into much more than it was.
Nah, it will just be a pretty normal Cat Griz, with more on the line. Vast majority of interactions will be civil, fun, good natured ribbing, with a few bad eggs thrown in there, probably a couple fights in the stands, etc. Pretty standard. In fact I've heard stories about how there used to be way more fist fights at Cat Griz back in the 70's and 80's. No idea if that's true or not. I don't think it's going to turn int a riot or anything.
Way more fights in the 70s and 80s. More people went to games, bars, school for the fights not to watch, drink or learn.

Fighting used to be the thing. Every town ranked the fighters. People would get into arguments about who the toughest fighters were and if a tough guy came to a town, then that towns tough guy would find out and it was on.

I remember when one of the toughest guys from Billings came to Helena with a few of his buddies. The toughest guy in Helena and his buddies found them and proceeded to “talk trash” and were summarily beaten to a pulp. No cops, no guns, no knives just good old fist fights. Then they all shook hands and drank beer together all night.

Those were the good old days.

Today, whenever any little thing happens it’s a big soap opera that continues on for days.
Too funny, Tom! I grew up in Billings around the same time. Lots of good ole' fashioned fisticuffs were the main activity on a Friday night. I remember it exactly as you said it; every town had its fighters and fight crew. In fact, I probably know exactly who are talking about in reference to who the tough guy from Billings was... :lol:



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Post by Hawks86 » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:06 pm

Sorry, had to do it. :evil:



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Post by cat_stache_fever » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm

Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?


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Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:17 pm

cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
I was wondering that same thing. I'd like to see them open up to season ticket holders to purchase more seats first....then open to the general public. I would imagine there's some sort of contracted allotment. Not sure what that number is.



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Post by catapult » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:21 pm

Gris fans have selective memory. Bobby and Logan Fife had to be separated from each other DURING a game as they were jawing at each other....they want to forget that incident as it just doesn't fit the gris narrative. :roll: All is good in Bobcat land. Gris fans want it so badly that it isn't. The team has their eye on the prize and is ignoring the outside noise! Go CATS! :D



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Post by 84CatGrad » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:21 pm

I don't give a rats ass what frizzzzz fans are saying. Go Cats.



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Post by BlueAndGoldNation » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:24 pm

cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe around 1,000-2,000 tickets are allotted for visiting fans, often split into designated sections. All of the season ticket holders have first dibs on their seats prior to the playoffs and were allowed to have already purchased their tickets throughout the playoffs. The seats of the season ticket holders that have opted out will hit the open market and be available to the public on Monday morning following this weekend.

This does worry me a bit, as there will likely be a lot of Griz fans at this game, more than a normal Brawl of the Wild in Bozeman. This is due to the uncertainty of the playoffs, and the possibility of the opt out of some of our season ticket holders. If this game happens, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the largest away crowd in years. It will be a feral atmosphere for sure.



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Post by 4KornerKat » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:37 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:17 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
I was wondering that same thing. I'd like to see them open up to season ticket holders to purchase more seats first....then open to the general public. I would imagine there's some sort of contracted allotment. Not sure what that number is.
I believe the NCAA requires a certain amount of tickets to be available to visitor. Season ticket holders already had the opportunity to renew (and I think still can potentially). At the time of that renewal we were able to request additional tickets. If you are a season ticket holder and want more tickets for the Semi-final, I'd suggest calling the ticket office ASAP to get your request in.
From there I'm not certain if they will open up for sale right after the game Friday Night, or if they will wait until Monday at 10 AM like they did this week.



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Re: I see NO HOPE in reducing the toxicity

Post by catzz » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:40 pm

BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:24 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe around 1,000-2,000 tickets are allotted for visiting fans, often split into designated sections. All of the season ticket holders have first dibs on their seats prior to the playoffs and were allowed to have already purchased their tickets throughout the playoffs. The seats of the season ticket holders that have opted out will hit the open market and be available to the public on Monday morning following this weekend.

This does worry me a bit, as there will likely be a lot of Griz fans at this game, more than a normal Brawl of the Wild in Bozeman. This is due to the uncertainty of the playoffs, and the possibility of the opt out of some of our season ticket holders. If this game happens, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the largest away crowd in years. It will be a feral atmosphere for sure.
I just got off phone with the ticket office. Season ticket holders still have the option to opt in for additional tickets to the semi-final game if the Cats make it. Season ticket holders can request up to 8 additional tickets. Not sure the cut off on requesting additional tickets but it is probably sometime this week.

Any remaining tickets will be released to the general public next Monday at 10am like it was done today for this Fridays games

Perhaps we need a separate thread on this. If the Cats and Griz happen to meet in the semis we will want that place packed with Cat fans. I just put in my order for additional tickets.



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Re: I see NO HOPE in reducing the toxicity

Post by RKMCMT » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:43 pm

Hopefully the athletic department will find as many internal channels as possible to keep tickets in the Bozeman market. Like unlimited buddy passes for Students. Sadly we'll likely still see a lot of profit taking on resale that will muddy the crowd with that ugly burgundy.



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Re: I see NO HOPE in reducing the toxicity

Post by RKMCMT » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:44 pm

catzz wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:40 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:24 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe around 1,000-2,000 tickets are allotted for visiting fans, often split into designated sections. All of the season ticket holders have first dibs on their seats prior to the playoffs and were allowed to have already purchased their tickets throughout the playoffs. The seats of the season ticket holders that have opted out will hit the open market and be available to the public on Monday morning following this weekend.

This does worry me a bit, as there will likely be a lot of Griz fans at this game, more than a normal Brawl of the Wild in Bozeman. This is due to the uncertainty of the playoffs, and the possibility of the opt out of some of our season ticket holders. If this game happens, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the largest away crowd in years. It will be a feral atmosphere for sure.
I just got off phone with the ticket office. Season ticket holders still have the option to opt in for additional tickets to the semi-final game if the Cats make it. Season ticket holders can request up to 8 additional tickets. Not sure the cut off on requesting additional tickets but it is probably sometime this week.

Any remaining tickets will be released to the general public next Monday at 10am like it was done today for this Fridays games

Perhaps we need a separate thread on this. If the Cats and Griz happen to meet in the semis we will want that place packed with Cat fans. I just put in my order for additional tickets.
Gonna suck to see a bunch of those get soaked up and then immediately thrown up for high markup on Seat Geek.



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Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:48 pm

catzz wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:40 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:24 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe around 1,000-2,000 tickets are allotted for visiting fans, often split into designated sections. All of the season ticket holders have first dibs on their seats prior to the playoffs and were allowed to have already purchased their tickets throughout the playoffs. The seats of the season ticket holders that have opted out will hit the open market and be available to the public on Monday morning following this weekend.

This does worry me a bit, as there will likely be a lot of Griz fans at this game, more than a normal Brawl of the Wild in Bozeman. This is due to the uncertainty of the playoffs, and the possibility of the opt out of some of our season ticket holders. If this game happens, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the largest away crowd in years. It will be a feral atmosphere for sure.
I just got off phone with the ticket office. Season ticket holders still have the option to opt in for additional tickets to the semi-final game if the Cats make it. Season ticket holders can request up to 8 additional tickets. Not sure the cut off on requesting additional tickets but it is probably sometime this week.

Any remaining tickets will be released to the general public next Monday at 10am like it was done today for this Fridays games

Perhaps we need a separate thread on this. If the Cats and Griz happen to meet in the semis we will want that place packed with Cat fans. I just put in my order for additional tickets.
Yep....I did the same thing. Reserved 8 additional tickets to the semi-final game.



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Re: I see NO HOPE in reducing the toxicity

Post by catzz » Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:56 pm

RKMCMT wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:44 pm
catzz wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:40 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:24 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe around 1,000-2,000 tickets are allotted for visiting fans, often split into designated sections. All of the season ticket holders have first dibs on their seats prior to the playoffs and were allowed to have already purchased their tickets throughout the playoffs. The seats of the season ticket holders that have opted out will hit the open market and be available to the public on Monday morning following this weekend.

This does worry me a bit, as there will likely be a lot of Griz fans at this game, more than a normal Brawl of the Wild in Bozeman. This is due to the uncertainty of the playoffs, and the possibility of the opt out of some of our season ticket holders. If this game happens, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the largest away crowd in years. It will be a feral atmosphere for sure.
I just got off phone with the ticket office. Season ticket holders still have the option to opt in for additional tickets to the semi-final game if the Cats make it. Season ticket holders can request up to 8 additional tickets. Not sure the cut off on requesting additional tickets but it is probably sometime this week.

Any remaining tickets will be released to the general public next Monday at 10am like it was done today for this Fridays games

Perhaps we need a separate thread on this. If the Cats and Griz happen to meet in the semis we will want that place packed with Cat fans. I just put in my order for additional tickets.
Gonna suck to see a bunch of those get soaked up and then immediately thrown up for high markup on Seat Geek.
Yeah I hate it. Thankfully the starting point for these set by MSU and NCAA is $50 dollars instead of $180 which was the price of tickets from UM for the Cat Griz game this year. Really not sure how we prevent people from doing it. Broken system. Often on Seat Geek and others it’s bots buying and selling constantly. Though when it comes to Cat-Griz, no doubt fans do it to make money.

It took me about 2 seconds to find takers for the extra 4 tickets I picked up today to friends that aren’t season ticket owners. Sold at cost.



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Post by cat_stache_fever » Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:07 pm

We'll have a leg up since we play a day before. Get the dub on Friday and and clog up the phone lines on Monday. Every season ticket holder should get their 8 tickets post haste!


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Post by rfischer94 » Mon Dec 08, 2025 6:08 pm

catzz wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:56 pm
RKMCMT wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:44 pm
catzz wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:40 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:24 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:07 pm
Not to derail the thread or put the cart in front of the horse here, but what is the ticket sales procedure if Cat/gris 2.0 happens? Is it just a first come, first serve deal or does each school get an allotment?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe around 1,000-2,000 tickets are allotted for visiting fans, often split into designated sections. All of the season ticket holders have first dibs on their seats prior to the playoffs and were allowed to have already purchased their tickets throughout the playoffs. The seats of the season ticket holders that have opted out will hit the open market and be available to the public on Monday morning following this weekend.

This does worry me a bit, as there will likely be a lot of Griz fans at this game, more than a normal Brawl of the Wild in Bozeman. This is due to the uncertainty of the playoffs, and the possibility of the opt out of some of our season ticket holders. If this game happens, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the largest away crowd in years. It will be a feral atmosphere for sure.
I just got off phone with the ticket office. Season ticket holders still have the option to opt in for additional tickets to the semi-final game if the Cats make it. Season ticket holders can request up to 8 additional tickets. Not sure the cut off on requesting additional tickets but it is probably sometime this week.

Any remaining tickets will be released to the general public next Monday at 10am like it was done today for this Fridays games

Perhaps we need a separate thread on this. If the Cats and Griz happen to meet in the semis we will want that place packed with Cat fans. I just put in my order for additional tickets.
Gonna suck to see a bunch of those get soaked up and then immediately thrown up for high markup on Seat Geek.
Yeah I hate it. Thankfully the starting point for these set by MSU and NCAA is $50 dollars instead of $180 which was the price of tickets from UM for the Cat Griz game this year. Really not sure how we prevent people from doing it. Broken system. Often on Seat Geek and others it’s bots buying and selling constantly. Though when it comes to Cat-Griz, no doubt fans do it to make money.

It took me about 2 seconds to find takers for the extra 4 tickets I picked up today to friends that aren’t season ticket owners. Sold at cost.
Planet Money did an episode about scalping. It's interesting.




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Post by golden77 » Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:42 pm

What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.



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Post by Cataholic » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:11 pm

golden77 wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:42 pm
What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.
Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.



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Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:47 pm

golden77 wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:42 pm
What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.
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Post by OldGriz » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:52 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:11 pm
golden77 wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:42 pm
What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.
Hauck is a classless tool. Perfect for their fan base.

So funny how they downplayed SDSU as weak all year when discussing MSU’s schedule, but now SDSU was one of the most dominant teams in FCS this year.

Cats will beat Gris by two scores in Bozeman if there is a rematch. It won’t be close.
SDSU is mediocre. I’ve said it all season. Their supposedly great QB threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns against Montana. Almost 100 of his passing yards came on a flukey 5-yd dump where the receiver gained 90 YAC. I still can’t see how the Cats lost to that team. Nevertheless, the Cats are better than the Griz as proven on Nov. 22. The head-to-head rivalry game settled it. I do believe if the Griz were to end up in Bozeman in the semifinal, the Cats would and should be the strong favorite. I’m kind of stating the obvious but it sounds like you’re not hearing many Griz fans acknowledge this.



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Post by MSU Doc » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:08 pm

golden77 wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:42 pm
What is everyone's opinion on the Griz scoring another touchdown on SDSU right at the end of the game instead of going into the victory formation. We could have absolutely done the same thing to the Griz but instead nealt on the ball. The difference between Hauck and Vegan maybe. The ending could easily have been a 10 point game, we had the ball on the 17 yard line with 1:35 to go. That's why it just cracks me up when Griz fans go but, but, but we only lost by 3 points. On another note I very seldom go look at the cesspool they call Egriz but now after their one big win over SDSU the are claiming they are absolutely playing the finest ball in the nation, bar none. There is nobody in the nation that can touch them. This after losing the conference championship, home field advantage thru the playoffs, state bragging rights, all while playing in the so called Mecca of the universe. I know it's one game at a time, but I really like our chance at another win if we play in Bozo in two weeks. Although it would suck to lose that game can you imagine if the Griz only had 2 losses for the year and they were both to the cats. I don't think they would ever recover from that.
I have no issue with the late score. SDSU should have stopped them. I haven't watched the game, so I'm speculating a bit here. If a team is up and playing backups, why not let the backups get some real game experience which may result in unneeded points?



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