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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Fri Dec 12, 2025 12:56 pm

I don't think this will be a blowout, I think it will be a tight game until the 3rd and our depth shrines through and keeps us fresh to the end.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by nanacat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 1:12 pm

luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 12:56 pm
I don't think this will be a blowout, I think it will be a tight game until the 3rd and our depth shrines through and keeps us fresh to the end.
I agree with you.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by 94VegasCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm

I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.


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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm

94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by RyeCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by 94VegasCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:44 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I’ll eat crow if it’s called for.


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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by nevadacat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.


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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by SparkCat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:31 pm

nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.
Wait… So if SDSU beat us, then we beat the Griz, then the Griz spanked SDSU, are we our own grandpa?



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by nevadacat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:34 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:31 pm
nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.
Wait… So if SDSU beat us, then we beat the Griz, then the Griz spanked SDSU, are we our own grandpa?
Only if there’s some sort of time travel involved. Never knows what goes on in the basement of Johnson hall.


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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:35 pm

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
Well, technically, we start a few redshirt freshman, so they’ll definitely be getting some playing time.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:43 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:31 pm
nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.
Wait… So if SDSU beat us, then we beat the Griz, then the Griz spanked SDSU, are we our own grandpa?
Y'all played SDSU at the very beginning of the season and the griz at the very end. Teams change a lot throughout the course of a season. We played the same exact team within a month of one another. There was a one point difference. Not to even mention I'm sure y'all treated Yale this way last week, and they came in and almost squeezed out a victory. An UNRANKED Yale. A team from the ivy league that has had "no competition all year long".



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by Cledus » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:50 pm

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We're just fans here. I promise you the MSU team is not overlooking SFA.


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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:55 pm

Cledus wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:50 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We're just fans here. I promise you the MSU team is not overlooking SFA.
I'm sure they aren't either.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by The Butcher » Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:07 pm

ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:43 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:31 pm
nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.
Wait… So if SDSU beat us, then we beat the Griz, then the Griz spanked SDSU, are we our own grandpa?
Y'all played SDSU at the very beginning of the season and the griz at the very end. Teams change a lot throughout the course of a season. We played the same exact team within a month of one another. There was a one point difference. Not to even mention I'm sure y'all treated Yale this way last week, and they came in and almost squeezed out a victory. An UNRANKED Yale. A team from the ivy league that has had "no competition all year long".
I can tell you one thing, UNRANKED Yale did not almost squeak out a victory...



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by aucat » Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:13 pm

Bulldog fan wrote:
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Yale fan (from Texas) and will be cheering hard for the Bobcats. Was treated so well last week and loved the environment. Hope you get a good crowd and kick their ass!
I enjoyed spending some time with several Yale fans. Great group of folks.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by ThelumberyardSFA » Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:16 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:07 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:43 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:31 pm
nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.
Wait… So if SDSU beat us, then we beat the Griz, then the Griz spanked SDSU, are we our own grandpa?
Y'all played SDSU at the very beginning of the season and the griz at the very end. Teams change a lot throughout the course of a season. We played the same exact team within a month of one another. There was a one point difference. Not to even mention I'm sure y'all treated Yale this way last week, and they came in and almost squeezed out a victory. An UNRANKED Yale. A team from the ivy league that has had "no competition all year long".
I can tell you one thing, UNRANKED Yale did not almost squeak out a victory...
I can TWO tell you things, 1.UNRANKED YALE was on your 5 yard line losing 0-7 halfway thru the third quarter. If they had not thrown an interception there, and interception in the first half which led to a score, they probably would've won. 2. Also your only points in the first half almost didn't happen after you had to pick up a fumble to score.



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by vike_king » Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:20 pm

nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:34 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:31 pm
nevadacat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:26 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:15 pm
RyeCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:39 pm
ThelumberyardSFA wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:35 pm
94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I want to see some of the young redshirts get into the game tonight. I think it’ll happen. Especially some of the DL guys.
Bookmarking this post for later tonight...
Bookmarking this for later tonight. Your team is 3-2 on the road. The 3 wins came against no ranked teams and one that went 2-10 in front of extremely tiny crowds. Yet, they’re going to come into Bobcat stadium and roll?
I never said we would "roll" but saying redshirt freshman are getting in is crazy.

One thing that I haven't seen anybody talk about:
SFA beat ACU to get here. ACU beat Tarleton who is currently #4, the favorite to win the championship by ESPN, and was ranked above Montana state for a period of time this year.

SFA also beat cal Poly by 18 points. A few weeks later, y'all only beat them by 17 points. Last time I checked 18 is more than 17!

I LOVE how y'all are underestimating the jacks. It will make the victory tonight that much sweeter. Who knows, maybe the SFA redshirts can squeeze in a few minutes.
We are all aware of the transitive property of football results. A beat B, B beat C, etc. just doesn’t carry a lot of weight here.

Maybe we are not underestimating the jacks, but are properly estimating them. That’s different from overlooking them, which I don’t think any Bobcat is.
Wait… So if SDSU beat us, then we beat the Griz, then the Griz spanked SDSU, are we our own grandpa?
Only if there’s some sort of time travel involved. Never knows what goes on in the basement of Johnson hall.
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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by webdav » Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:22 pm

I hope everyone is safe getting there to support our Cats. Ideally already in Bozeman because the roads (at least in/around Billings) are not good after rain into 11" of snow.

We need to fill Bobcat Stadium!



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Re: Bobcats vs SFA - So not the Official Game Day Thread

Post by cats2506 » Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:40 pm

Made it to Livingston and checked in, on to Bozeman at 4:00


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