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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by catatac » Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:02 pm

BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:06 pm
4thecats wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 3:15 pm
I just fear the griz will take advantage of this and they have better receivers.. Plus I don't think you should game plan on takeaways or penalties.
But maybe it's just me being scared of the griz rematch.
They look tough. And their D is fired up
We'll be fine.... they'll make some plays but all in all we are more talented and poor coaching is better. In a nip uck game airways take the more talented team and we are that. It won't be pretty but we'll win. Um had the crowd behind them so they played high because of that energy. They get us at home, they won't have that energy. It won't be a blow out but we'll win. Probably have to see uc Davis in the natty and we'll win.
I was hoping for this, but huge miss there.


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by Go Scats Go » Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:09 pm

lutecat wrote:
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Vidlak is a better qb than KAY.
Really? When


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by Hawks86 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:28 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:09 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:46 pm
Vidlak is a better qb than KAY.
Really? When
Maybe when he threw for 242 compared to ah not's 186.


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by ECBobcat » Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:50 pm

Hawks86 wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:28 pm
Go Scats Go wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:09 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:46 pm
Vidlak is a better qb than KAY.
Really? When
Maybe when he threw for 242 compared to ah not's 186.
That game didn’t happen. You imagined it.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by VimSince03 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 10:24 pm

ECBobcat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:50 pm
Hawks86 wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:28 pm
Go Scats Go wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:09 pm
lutecat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:46 pm
Vidlak is a better qb than KAY.
Really? When
Maybe when he threw for 242 compared to ah not's 186.
That game didn’t happen. You imagined it.
I concur....if Griz played in a game four weeks ago they would've won I'm told.


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by BobcatBuiltTexan » Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:46 pm

catatac wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:02 pm
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:06 pm
4thecats wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 3:15 pm
I just fear the griz will take advantage of this and they have better receivers.. Plus I don't think you should game plan on takeaways or penalties.
But maybe it's just me being scared of the griz rematch.
They look tough. And their D is fired up
We'll be fine.... they'll make some plays but all in all we are more talented and poor coaching is better. In a nip uck game airways take the more talented team and we are that. It won't be pretty but we'll win. Um had the crowd behind them so they played high because of that energy. They get us at home, they won't have that energy. It won't be a blow out but we'll win. Probably have to see uc Davis in the natty and we'll win.
I was hoping for this, but huge miss there.
Yeah I really thought they would roll. They didn't look like what I know of uc Davis... they weren't as hard nosed and aggressive. Maybe it's just vs us



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by BobcatBuiltTexan » Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:01 am

My biggest issue is that we vacant the middle of the field a lot and we give up big runs because we're too light in the box. This was mainly against sfa. I feel that was the game plan because they pass alot. We basically were running a dime defense without personnel changes. I didn't like it but we won so I'm good. If we are going to run a dime of much rather us bring in those fast cbs. Have all 4 cbs on the field, 2 high safeties, our best runn stopping lb, and 4 dl. We can play man on all wrs, roll a safety down on the snap and keep one high safety to play center field.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by catbooster » Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:14 am

BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:46 pm
catatac wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:02 pm
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:06 pm
4thecats wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 3:15 pm
I just fear the griz will take advantage of this and they have better receivers.. Plus I don't think you should game plan on takeaways or penalties.
But maybe it's just me being scared of the griz rematch.
They look tough. And their D is fired up
We'll be fine.... they'll make some plays but all in all we are more talented and poor coaching is better. In a nip uck game airways take the more talented team and we are that. It won't be pretty but we'll win. Um had the crowd behind them so they played high because of that energy. They get us at home, they won't have that energy. It won't be a blow out but we'll win. Probably have to see uc Davis in the natty and we'll win.
I was hoping for this, but huge miss there.
Yeah I really thought they would roll. They didn't look like what I know of uc Davis... they weren't as hard nosed and aggressive. Maybe it's just vs us
Apparently they only suited-up 51 players today due to injuries.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by grizzh8r » Sun Dec 14, 2025 8:33 am

catbooster wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:14 am
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:46 pm
catatac wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:02 pm
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:06 pm
4thecats wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 3:15 pm
I just fear the griz will take advantage of this and they have better receivers.. Plus I don't think you should game plan on takeaways or penalties.
But maybe it's just me being scared of the griz rematch.
They look tough. And their D is fired up
We'll be fine.... they'll make some plays but all in all we are more talented and poor coaching is better. In a nip uck game airways take the more talented team and we are that. It won't be pretty but we'll win. Um had the crowd behind them so they played high because of that energy. They get us at home, they won't have that energy. It won't be a blow out but we'll win. Probably have to see uc Davis in the natty and we'll win.
I was hoping for this, but huge miss there.
Yeah I really thought they would roll. They didn't look like what I know of uc Davis... they weren't as hard nosed and aggressive. Maybe it's just vs us
Apparently they only suited-up 51 players today due to injuries.
And I read somewhere they had a bug going through their team...


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by 89Cat » Sun Dec 14, 2025 8:50 am

My take on the defense vs SFA was that, once we got the big lead, the defense went vanilla and just tried to keep everything in front of them. I don't think they were beat over the top once and that was the plan - make SFA drive the length of the field, burn some clock, and hopefully, make a mistake that ended their drives. It worked sometimes, sometimes it didn't. Fortunately, our offense scored on something like 8 out of 10 drives to keep the game out of reach.

In the Brawl 2.0, our defensive ends and linebackers need to hold the edge. I go back to the long run Gillman had against us down the left sideline, that can't happen. The DBs also have to be ready to come up on the edge and wrap up on the short screen passes, don't just hit them with your shoulder, stick them. Know where Wortham is at all times, bottle up Gillman and force the others to make the plays. Easier said than done but that's what I'd do it I was the DC.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:09 am

BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:46 pm
catatac wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:02 pm
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:06 pm
4thecats wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 3:15 pm
I just fear the griz will take advantage of this and they have better receivers.. Plus I don't think you should game plan on takeaways or penalties.
But maybe it's just me being scared of the griz rematch.
They look tough. And their D is fired up
We'll be fine.... they'll make some plays but all in all we are more talented and poor coaching is better. In a nip uck game airways take the more talented team and we are that. It won't be pretty but we'll win. Um had the crowd behind them so they played high because of that energy. They get us at home, they won't have that energy. It won't be a blow out but we'll win. Probably have to see uc Davis in the natty and we'll win.
I was hoping for this, but huge miss there.
Yeah I really thought they would roll. They didn't look like what I know of uc Davis... they weren't as hard nosed and aggressive. Maybe it's just vs us
The amount of injury attrition they suffered was enormous, especially on defense. It finally caught up with them yesterday.


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by gtapp » Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:40 am

We struggle with the post pattern. When the receiver cuts to the center of the field the safety is supposed to be there but we are continually out of position. Coaching issue. Better make adjustments this week or the griz will play pitch and catch all day.


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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by BobcatBuiltTexan » Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:04 pm

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:09 am
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:46 pm
catatac wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:02 pm
BobcatBuiltTexan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:06 pm
4thecats wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 3:15 pm
I just fear the griz will take advantage of this and they have better receivers.. Plus I don't think you should game plan on takeaways or penalties.
But maybe it's just me being scared of the griz rematch.
They look tough. And their D is fired up
We'll be fine.... they'll make some plays but all in all we are more talented and poor coaching is better. In a nip uck game airways take the more talented team and we are that. It won't be pretty but we'll win. Um had the crowd behind them so they played high because of that energy. They get us at home, they won't have that energy. It won't be a blow out but we'll win. Probably have to see uc Davis in the natty and we'll win.
I was hoping for this, but huge miss there.
Yeah I really thought they would roll. They didn't look like what I know of uc Davis... they weren't as hard nosed and aggressive. Maybe it's just vs us
The amount of injury attrition they suffered was enormous, especially on defense. It finally caught up with them yesterday.
Gotcha... makes sense.. hate that for them



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by Bozcat003 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:12 pm

gtapp wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:40 am
We struggle with the post pattern. When the receiver cuts to the center of the field the safety is supposed to be there but we are continually out of position. Coaching issue. Better make adjustments this week or the griz will play pitch and catch all day.
I'm maybe underthinking it ... but didn't we play them 22 days ago?
Its not like our weaknesses have changed in that time frame ... Griz are talented not disputing that buuuuutttt...

We'll be ok.
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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by 84CatGrad » Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:21 pm

Another explanation for the relative success of the last three teams is that they are good teams. Good teams have good players and good schemes.

I am nervous as hell this week so I'm looking for anything to make me feel better. Frizz are 13-1. 9-1 at home, 4-0 on the road. Their road games were at Sac St, at Idaho State, at Weber State, at Portland state. Those teams were 18-30, 9-12 at home on the year. Not only have they played absolutely nobody on the road in a hostile environment, they have only had to go on four road trips ALL YEAR. My hope is their ridiculous EIGHT HOME GAME schedule comes back to bite them on Saturday.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by jgrilley406 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:37 pm

84CatGrad wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:21 pm
Another explanation for the relative success of the last three teams is that they are good teams. Good teams have good players and good schemes.

I am nervous as hell this week so I'm looking for anything to make me feel better. Frizz are 13-1. 9-1 at home, 4-0 on the road. Their road games were at Sac St, at Idaho State, at Weber State, at Portland state. Those teams were 18-30, 9-12 at home on the year. Not only have they played absolutely nobody on the road in a hostile environment, they have only had to go on four road trips ALL YEAR. My hope is their ridiculous EIGHT HOME GAME schedule comes back to bite them on Saturday.
Also those 3 games were OOC games. It’s the same reason why teams in MVFC have better success against NDSU and SDUS at times even if they’re not a more talented team than the griz and cats. they play them every year and have a better feel for their scheme and understand the personnel of the opposing team better. The same thing happened in the playoffs this year as it did for the griz two years ago with Bergen. Yes they probably know Wortham Gilman and Deck are good but it’s not the same as when you face them all through their college careers. Vigen made it a point to try and stop Bergen and not kick to him as he does not kicking to deck and wortham other teams don’t fully grasp how dangerous those players are and the tendencies. There’s no way Vigen and the cats are going to let wortham have 11 catches or whatever it was and kick to him and deck. preparing against the griz with their blitz scheme and offensive trickery and playing in that stadium is hard to replicate in practice one week out of the year which is why teams struggle. Cats know who the griz are and who the weapons are and understand the make up, which is a huge plus in this game and we’re at home.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by rfischer94 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:19 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:41 pm
The Cats defense is far and away better than USDs, yikes!!
I was really surprised by how poorly USD played. They seemed grossly unprepared for that game.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by rfischer94 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:21 pm

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Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:54 pm
One thing that is really starting to gravel my ass is ever since Dowler was modest enough to say, "I don't know how this keeps happening" after the Cat-Griz game, a lot of people have been saying he's just getting lucky. IMO he was a first team All-BSC safety before he got his first pick. In fact, a couple of us were discussing just that before the Weber game. Then he went off on turnovers and hasn't slowed down.

I realize you can't count on getting turnovers every game. They may be random but it's not just luck.
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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by nanacat » Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:22 pm

rfischer94 wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:19 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:41 pm
The Cats defense is far and away better than USDs, yikes!!
I was really surprised by how poorly USD played. They seemed grossly unprepared for that game.
Grossly! It's like they never even watched film.



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Re: Cats Defense Vulnerable?

Post by iaafan » Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:39 pm

nanacat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:22 pm
rfischer94 wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 4:19 pm
nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:41 pm
The Cats defense is far and away better than USDs, yikes!!
I was really surprised by how poorly USD played. They seemed grossly unprepared for that game.
Grossly! It's like they never even watched film.
USD was the #6 defense in the MVFC. They did a good job on Gillman and vs the run in general aside from one play. Gave up too many big plays.



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