The official/UNofficial Bobcat-Redbirds National Championship Gameday Thread

[allcat]

I finally got around to watching the full game replay because my brother in law said I wouldn't believe some of the stuff that he saw on TV that I missed watching it in person. I have to agree.
1. The ISU guy was CLEARLY down before he fumbled the ball in the end zone recovered by a Rebbird for a TD. It was CLEAR to anyone with eyes.
2. To me the most amazing play was about 1 minute left in the first quarter. Number 67 for ISU ASSAULTED Zac Crews. He wrestled him down to the ground like he was in the rodeo trying to twist his head off. Then with Crews helpless on the ground, number 67 dove down onto him helmet first. Granted, a 15 yard penalty was called but this behavior was so extreme, that 67 SHOULD have been thrown out of the game. Even the announcers really made note of this terrible play.
3. THe last "false start" on our critical drive in OT was, as the announcers put it, a "GHOST call." THere was abolutely NOT MOVEMENT by our guy. How could the official make such a terrible call at such a critical time in the game?? If he had not made this ghost call we would have had about 3rd and 2. Thank goodness Lamson made the miracle throw to overcome this TERRIBLE call!
4. Even from where I was sitting at the opposite end of the field I vividly saw the ISU WR push our DB to the ground. In this case thank goodness the officials made the right call. But then on TV I saw the ISU coach go off about what a horrible call it was. Frankly this comment along with the way the ISU coach barely shook Vigen's hand at the end of the game made me lose a lot of respect for the guy.

I'm just thankful we found a way to come out on top despite the adversity!

1. I can see and I saw he was clearly NOT down. The ball was moving before anything touched. There was an angle or two where it looked like he was down, but there was one definitive shot where he was not.
2. Agreed. IMO one of those situations where 15 yards was not enough, but ejection was too much.
3. Agreed
4. Disagree. The reporter at the quarter break completely led him into that answer. He obviously didn’t agree with the call, but was baited into complaining in an emotional moment of the game. I don’t judge the post game handshake unless something totally egregious happens. The dude just had his heart ripped from his chest.

1. Upon watching it on replay, my initial take was that it was a fumble. It looked like the ball was moving before he touched the ground. But then I watched it again and again and again, and I’m pretty damn sure his shoulder was on the ground before the ball came out. Could that in effect be ruled that the ground does not cause a fumble and therefore was down?

If you had to watch it over and over and you were pretty sure, I would say the call on the field stands.

[TomCat88]

I finally got around to watching the full game replay because my brother in law said I wouldn't believe some of the stuff that he saw on TV that I missed watching it in person. I have to agree.
1. The ISU guy was CLEARLY down before he fumbled the ball in the end zone recovered by a Rebbird for a TD. It was CLEAR to anyone with eyes.
2. To me the most amazing play was about 1 minute left in the first quarter. Number 67 for ISU ASSAULTED Zac Crews. He wrestled him down to the ground like he was in the rodeo trying to twist his head off. Then with Crews helpless on the ground, number 67 dove down onto him helmet first. Granted, a 15 yard penalty was called but this behavior was so extreme, that 67 SHOULD have been thrown out of the game. Even the announcers really made note of this terrible play.
3. THe last "false start" on our critical drive in OT was, as the announcers put it, a "GHOST call." THere was abolutely NOT MOVEMENT by our guy. How could the official make such a terrible call at such a critical time in the game?? If he had not made this ghost call we would have had about 3rd and 2. Thank goodness Lamson made the miracle throw to overcome this TERRIBLE call!
4. Even from where I was sitting at the opposite end of the field I vividly saw the ISU WR push our DB to the ground. In this case thank goodness the officials made the right call. But then on TV I saw the ISU coach go off about what a horrible call it was. Frankly this comment along with the way the ISU coach barely shook Vigen's hand at the end of the game made me lose a lot of respect for the guy.

I'm just thankful we found a way to come out on top despite the adversity!

1. I can see and I saw he was clearly NOT down. The ball was moving before anything touched. There was an angle or two where it looked like he was down, but there was one definitive shot where he was not.
2. Agreed. IMO one of those situations where 15 yards was not enough, but ejection was too much.
3. Agreed
4. Disagree. The reporter at the quarter break completely led him into that answer. He obviously didn’t agree with the call, but was baited into complaining in an emotional moment of the game. I don’t judge the post game handshake unless something totally egregious happens. The dude just had his heart ripped from his chest.

1. Upon watching it on replay, my initial take was that it was a fumble. It looked like the ball was moving before he touched the ground. But then I watched it again and again and again, and I’m pretty damn sure his shoulder was on the ground before the ball came out. Could that in effect be ruled that the ground does not cause a fumble and therefore was down?

Anyone see the third and 4 play on ISU’s first drive of the second half? Was that a catch? Doesn’t look like wr (Lord?) had control to the ground.

[tdub]

I finally got around to watching the full game replay because my brother in law said I wouldn't believe some of the stuff that he saw on TV that I missed watching it in person. I have to agree.
1. The ISU guy was CLEARLY down before he fumbled the ball in the end zone recovered by a Rebbird for a TD. It was CLEAR to anyone with eyes.
2. To me the most amazing play was about 1 minute left in the first quarter. Number 67 for ISU ASSAULTED Zac Crews. He wrestled him down to the ground like he was in the rodeo trying to twist his head off. Then with Crews helpless on the ground, number 67 dove down onto him helmet first. Granted, a 15 yard penalty was called but this behavior was so extreme, that 67 SHOULD have been thrown out of the game. Even the announcers really made note of this terrible play.
3. THe last "false start" on our critical drive in OT was, as the announcers put it, a "GHOST call." THere was abolutely NOT MOVEMENT by our guy. How could the official make such a terrible call at such a critical time in the game?? If he had not made this ghost call we would have had about 3rd and 2. Thank goodness Lamson made the miracle throw to overcome this TERRIBLE call!
4. Even from where I was sitting at the opposite end of the field I vividly saw the ISU WR push our DB to the ground. In this case thank goodness the officials made the right call. But then on TV I saw the ISU coach go off about what a horrible call it was. Frankly this comment along with the way the ISU coach barely shook Vigen's hand at the end of the game made me lose a lot of respect for the guy.

I'm just thankful we found a way to come out on top despite the adversity!

1. I can see and I saw he was clearly NOT down. The ball was moving before anything touched. There was an angle or two where it looked like he was down, but there was one definitive shot where he was not.
2. Agreed. IMO one of those situations where 15 yards was not enough, but ejection was too much.
3. Agreed
4. Disagree. The reporter at the quarter break completely led him into that answer. He obviously didn’t agree with the call, but was baited into complaining in an emotional moment of the game. I don’t judge the post game handshake unless something totally egregious happens. The dude just had his heart ripped from his chest.

1. Upon watching it on replay, my initial take was that it was a fumble. It looked like the ball was moving before he touched the ground. But then I watched it again and again and again, and I’m pretty damn sure his shoulder was on the ground before the ball came out. Could that in effect be ruled that the ground does not cause a fumble and therefore was down?

Anyone see the third and 4 play on ISU’s first drive of the second half? Was that a catch? Doesn’t look like wr (Lord?) had control to the ground.

I thought it was not a catch. Ball was definitely moving around when he hit the ground.

[grizzh8r]

Over six hours of ‘high stress’ during the Natty. This screenshot from my watch is hilarious. For reference, I had 12 minutes the next day and seven minutes on Wednesday of high stress.

"6-7, Ben!" - Ty Gregorak

[TomCat88]

I finally got around to watching the full game replay because my brother in law said I wouldn't believe some of the stuff that he saw on TV that I missed watching it in person. I have to agree.
1. The ISU guy was CLEARLY down before he fumbled the ball in the end zone recovered by a Rebbird for a TD. It was CLEAR to anyone with eyes.
2. To me the most amazing play was about 1 minute left in the first quarter. Number 67 for ISU ASSAULTED Zac Crews. He wrestled him down to the ground like he was in the rodeo trying to twist his head off. Then with Crews helpless on the ground, number 67 dove down onto him helmet first. Granted, a 15 yard penalty was called but this behavior was so extreme, that 67 SHOULD have been thrown out of the game. Even the announcers really made note of this terrible play.
3. THe last "false start" on our critical drive in OT was, as the announcers put it, a "GHOST call." THere was abolutely NOT MOVEMENT by our guy. How could the official make such a terrible call at such a critical time in the game?? If he had not made this ghost call we would have had about 3rd and 2. Thank goodness Lamson made the miracle throw to overcome this TERRIBLE call!
4. Even from where I was sitting at the opposite end of the field I vividly saw the ISU WR push our DB to the ground. In this case thank goodness the officials made the right call. But then on TV I saw the ISU coach go off about what a horrible call it was. Frankly this comment along with the way the ISU coach barely shook Vigen's hand at the end of the game made me lose a lot of respect for the guy.

I'm just thankful we found a way to come out on top despite the adversity!

1. I can see and I saw he was clearly NOT down. The ball was moving before anything touched. There was an angle or two where it looked like he was down, but there was one definitive shot where he was not.
2. Agreed. IMO one of those situations where 15 yards was not enough, but ejection was too much.
3. Agreed
4. Disagree. The reporter at the quarter break completely led him into that answer. He obviously didn’t agree with the call, but was baited into complaining in an emotional moment of the game. I don’t judge the post game handshake unless something totally egregious happens. The dude just had his heart ripped from his chest.

1. Upon watching it on replay, my initial take was that it was a fumble. It looked like the ball was moving before he touched the ground. But then I watched it again and again and again, and I’m pretty damn sure his shoulder was on the ground before the ball came out. Could that in effect be ruled that the ground does not cause a fumble and therefore was down?

Anyone see the third and 4 play on ISU’s first drive of the second half? Was that a catch? Doesn’t look like wr (Lord?) had control to the ground.

I thought it was not a catch. Ball was definitely moving around when he hit the ground.

I know I don’t know how the catch rule works entirely but it seems like damn near anything can be “didn’t have control”.