Yes, INTs and fumbles are the worst. I'm thinking just throw it out of bounds if that's all you got. Sacks are definitely okay when you just don't have a good opportunity to get of the ball.tetoncat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:01 pmMellott avoided sacks with his scrambling but took off too early sometimes. He had the speed to make teams pay. Lamson did a good job but not as elusive and Cats seemed to have more reads for him which kept him in pocket longer.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 5:22 pmIn addition to that (deep passing ability), if he can recognize pressure and get rid of the ball instead of taking sacks I think he'll get drafted or at least get a free agent tryout. He doesn't have to go deep a lot but just put on film that he has that ability. A few more passes like the one to Lencioni in the Cat-Griz 2.0.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 1:30 pmHe needs to improve his arm strength and deep ball accuracy. his intermediate game is very good though, he's made some next level throws as a Bobcat.
Better off to take the sack than throw picks although sometimes outside picket could have thrown it away.
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If you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
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Rumor has it he played at ISU of MVFC.
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https://herosports.com/fcs-podcast-ston ... witz-bzbz/JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:16 pmIf you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
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Sweet, that will provide some great material for Lamson's speech next January at the celebration for MSU's second consecutive championship. "They said our offense is boring and dull!"JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:16 pmIf you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
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Curry is not boring and dull!MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:16 pmSweet, that will provide some great material for Lamson's speech next January at the celebration for MSU's second consecutive championship. "They said our offense is boring and dull!"JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:16 pmIf you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
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Ha! Damn straight!D-Wreck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 10:13 pmCurry is not boring and dull!MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:16 pmSweet, that will provide some great material for Lamson's speech next January at the celebration for MSU's second consecutive championship. "They said our offense is boring and dull!"JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:16 pmIf you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
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Check out Dan Jackson's recruiting show on YouTube . Looks like SDSU has a great freshman class with size you wouldn't believe. OL's 6-5, 6-6, and 6-7 330, TE's 6-6 250, 6-5, 255 up. Huge!
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Stone is dumb. I think he does FCS Nation Podcast. That show and The Check Down are always super high on the Gris.JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:16 pmIf you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
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Knock it off. You get offended too easily. He didn’t say anything wrong. He can think Lamson is awesome without seeing him as a draft pick. It is what it is. If I asked "what are Catholic's chances of not getting offended in a thread" and someone said, nonexistent, that would be the truth and not offensive to you at all. The question would be rude, but the response wouldn't. In this case, neither the question or the response were rude.Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 8:05 pmMy problem is how certain people “share” their opinions. Quite frankly, I think a kid who has been an outstanding player and representative of the program deserves some respect in such discussions. Maybe he is not an ideal NFL prospect based on his measurables, but to be downright douchey is not acceptable. If someone comments on how bad a particular poster is, people have a mental come apart. But that treatment is acceptable towards players? Damn. We can do better.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:59 pmWe all know opinions are like.....well.....uh.....everyone has an opinion and predictions and we are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. All you have to do is look back at former BN posts to see that fact.catzz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:30 pm@BelligerentBobcat isn't wrong. And no one has been higher on Lamson than him, going back to August!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 6:54 pmHe's not an NFL prospect. Maybe with further development he'll get a slight chance, but right now, he's not there. If you took offense to what I said, I apologize.
Here is one of my past posts. Yeah, I was pretty off on that one.
Here is one of Tomcats past posts. Well, he wasn't wrong, D'Amato did start, but not for the Cats.
Here is one of Belligerants past posts. Three of those other guys did make NFL rosters and two are still there.
The point is he is just stating an opinion and we shouldn't be upset about it, because he may just be wrong, just like we all are.
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Justin’s 2025 stats are better than Cam’s 2023 stats (Justin did have one more game). Justin’s stats are also very comparable to Cam’s 2024 stats. IF Justin can top his 2025 season, I think he’d end up on a practice squad somewhere.lutecat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 8:18 pmKnock it off. You get offended too easily. He didn’t say anything wrong. He can think Lamson is awesome without seeing him as a draft pick. It is what it is. If I asked "what are Catholic's chances of not getting offended in a thread" and someone said, nonexistent, that would be the truth and not offensive to you at all. The question would be rude, but the response wouldn't. In this case, neither the question or the response were rude.Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 8:05 pmMy problem is how certain people “share” their opinions. Quite frankly, I think a kid who has been an outstanding player and representative of the program deserves some respect in such discussions. Maybe he is not an ideal NFL prospect based on his measurables, but to be downright douchey is not acceptable. If someone comments on how bad a particular poster is, people have a mental come apart. But that treatment is acceptable towards players? Damn. We can do better.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:59 pmWe all know opinions are like.....well.....uh.....everyone has an opinion and predictions and we are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. All you have to do is look back at former BN posts to see that fact.catzz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:30 pm@BelligerentBobcat isn't wrong. And no one has been higher on Lamson than him, going back to August!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 6:54 pmHe's not an NFL prospect. Maybe with further development he'll get a slight chance, but right now, he's not there. If you took offense to what I said, I apologize.
Here is one of my past posts. Yeah, I was pretty off on that one.
Here is one of Tomcats past posts. Well, he wasn't wrong, D'Amato did start, but not for the Cats.
Here is one of Belligerants past posts. Three of those other guys did make NFL rosters and two are still there.
The point is he is just stating an opinion and we shouldn't be upset about it, because he may just be wrong, just like we all are.
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Which is why what BB said is exactly correct. His DRAFT prospect is RELATIVELY non existent. How anyone could take that as an insult is a head scratcher.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:19 pmJustin’s 2025 stats are better than Cam’s 2023 stats (Justin did have one more game). Justin’s stats are also very comparable to Cam’s 2024 stats. IF Justin can top his 2025 season, I think he’d end up on a practice squad somewhere.lutecat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 8:18 pmKnock it off. You get offended too easily. He didn’t say anything wrong. He can think Lamson is awesome without seeing him as a draft pick. It is what it is. If I asked "what are Catholic's chances of not getting offended in a thread" and someone said, nonexistent, that would be the truth and not offensive to you at all. The question would be rude, but the response wouldn't. In this case, neither the question or the response were rude.Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 8:05 pmMy problem is how certain people “share” their opinions. Quite frankly, I think a kid who has been an outstanding player and representative of the program deserves some respect in such discussions. Maybe he is not an ideal NFL prospect based on his measurables, but to be downright douchey is not acceptable. If someone comments on how bad a particular poster is, people have a mental come apart. But that treatment is acceptable towards players? Damn. We can do better.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:59 pmWe all know opinions are like.....well.....uh.....everyone has an opinion and predictions and we are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. All you have to do is look back at former BN posts to see that fact.catzz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:30 pm@BelligerentBobcat isn't wrong. And no one has been higher on Lamson than him, going back to August!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 6:54 pmHe's not an NFL prospect. Maybe with further development he'll get a slight chance, but right now, he's not there. If you took offense to what I said, I apologize.
Here is one of my past posts. Yeah, I was pretty off on that one.
Here is one of Tomcats past posts. Well, he wasn't wrong, D'Amato did start, but not for the Cats.
Here is one of Belligerants past posts. Three of those other guys did make NFL rosters and two are still there.
The point is he is just stating an opinion and we shouldn't be upset about it, because he may just be wrong, just like we all are.
But he’s going to be a really good qb for the cats and we’ll be the front runner to win it all again.
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They used to say NDSUU’s offenses were boring too.kwcat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:14 pmhttps://herosports.com/fcs-podcast-ston ... witz-bzbz/JoeCatsJoe wrote: ↑Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:16 pmIf you haven't already heard the latest Akem's analysis, I'd recommend it. It has some very interesting statistics breaking down the benchmarks that a championship caliber team needs to have-rush yards per game, points per game, pass yards per game, points given up per game, etc. Sounded like MSU this year was average to slightly below average in a lot of categories. Gave some perspective on what kind of teams normally win the FCS, and how thin the margins are for teams like the grisLLies and EWU of the past, teams that can't control the line of scrimmage as well. Some good stuff.
Also, some guy named Stone was on Sam Herder's show-what a blowhard. was asked about returning QBs, and said it was clearly, definitively, Ah Yat. Said it's not debatable. If you think it's him that's fine, he's a really good QB, that's a fine take. Far and away the best? Not as sure about that. In addition, he said what MSU does on offense is offensively boring and dull, that Lamson doesn't have the burden that someone like Ah Yat has, we don't ask much of him, and a bunch of other baloney. Not sure if he was watching the championship game, we sure asked a lot of Lamson in that one. Not sure if this was a collection of bad takes or if he's a Cat hater for some reason.
In fairness, MSU didn’t have a lot of explosive plays this season like they did with Tommy. It was very much a “we’re better than you and we’re going to grind it out” style of offense. To some, that’s boring. I think it’s football perfection. Stone is also correct that UM needs more from KAY than MSU does from Lamson in order to be a good team, and that’s why MSU was clearly the better team. KAY is a really good QB, but Lamson is perfect for what MSU does on offense. I think both teams are happy with who they have.
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His “draft stock” is low. I wouldn’t say he’s not a “NFL prospect” though. His ability to find open windows and fit passes into tight spaces is incredible. He misses open receivers at times and knows he does, which is a start to fixing it. His inability to get rid of the ball isn’t good.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 2:01 amWhich is why what BB said is exactly correct. His DRAFT prospect is RELATIVELY non existent. How anyone could take that as an insult is a head scratcher.SparkCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:19 pmJustin’s 2025 stats are better than Cam’s 2023 stats (Justin did have one more game). Justin’s stats are also very comparable to Cam’s 2024 stats. IF Justin can top his 2025 season, I think he’d end up on a practice squad somewhere.lutecat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 8:18 pmKnock it off. You get offended too easily. He didn’t say anything wrong. He can think Lamson is awesome without seeing him as a draft pick. It is what it is. If I asked "what are Catholic's chances of not getting offended in a thread" and someone said, nonexistent, that would be the truth and not offensive to you at all. The question would be rude, but the response wouldn't. In this case, neither the question or the response were rude.Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 8:05 pmMy problem is how certain people “share” their opinions. Quite frankly, I think a kid who has been an outstanding player and representative of the program deserves some respect in such discussions. Maybe he is not an ideal NFL prospect based on his measurables, but to be downright douchey is not acceptable. If someone comments on how bad a particular poster is, people have a mental come apart. But that treatment is acceptable towards players? Damn. We can do better.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:59 pmWe all know opinions are like.....well.....uh.....everyone has an opinion and predictions and we are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. All you have to do is look back at former BN posts to see that fact.catzz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:30 pm@BelligerentBobcat isn't wrong. And no one has been higher on Lamson than him, going back to August!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 6:54 pmHe's not an NFL prospect. Maybe with further development he'll get a slight chance, but right now, he's not there. If you took offense to what I said, I apologize.
Here is one of my past posts. Yeah, I was pretty off on that one.
Here is one of Tomcats past posts. Well, he wasn't wrong, D'Amato did start, but not for the Cats.
Here is one of Belligerants past posts. Three of those other guys did make NFL rosters and two are still there.
The point is he is just stating an opinion and we shouldn't be upset about it, because he may just be wrong, just like we all are.
But he’s going to be a really good qb for the cats and we’ll be the front runner to win it all again.
Having the ability to throw deep passes is a plus but the NFL isn’t very focused on that. So I don’t think it’s a big deal for him.
Of those three things, I think two are fixable and wouldn’t be surprised if he does improve on them considering his competitive nature and work ethic. He had some amazing games and stretches where he looked like a pro this year and a few of those were against the best competition he went up against.
He was outstanding vs Oregon. Both Griz games were very good and his first half vs Illinois State was incredible, as was the last play.
He struggled against sdsu. He worst games were against lower level teams (Poly, Mercyhurst, Yale was good) for some reason. Had he teed off on some of the lesser teams like he did vs UNC, he probably gets a few more accolades. Ah Yat was first team because he had bigger not better passing numbers. He probably beats out Gillman for opoy too.
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Lamson's draft prospect is an open question. Impossible to say one way or the other as of today. That's not an opinion.
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Where he sits today as a prospect is likely to change after this year. If he shows improvement in some of his weaker areas, puts up great numbers again, wins the Payton... etc, then maybe he will. More likely an UDFA but who knows?
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This is true.
I don't recall this discussion about Mellott. Was Tommy considered a draft prospect coming out of his junior year? Did it take his Pro Day to get him into a draftable status?
Lamson has some great qualities and some qualities that need work. While I don't feel like you have to have huge arm strength to make it in the NFL, he could stand to improve there or just show a couple deeps throws with zip on the ball. He had a TD pass to Taco vs EWU(?) that was impressive. Ball had zip and went about 55 yards from where he threw it. He had a couple long balls to King vs UNC but they seemed to float and King had to adjust. His pass to Rocky vs UM 2.0 was a nice throw but not that long -- 40-45 yards in the air.
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Great. Another poster who feels entitled to post whatever he wants about a player while using an anonymous username. There are ways of critiquing without being a total douche toward a team leader.lutecat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 8:18 pmKnock it off. You get offended too easily. He didn’t say anything wrong. He can think Lamson is awesome without seeing him as a draft pick. It is what it is. If I asked "what are Catholic's chances of not getting offended in a thread" and someone said, nonexistent, that would be the truth and not offensive to you at all. The question would be rude, but the response wouldn't. In this case, neither the question or the response were rude.Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 8:05 pmMy problem is how certain people “share” their opinions. Quite frankly, I think a kid who has been an outstanding player and representative of the program deserves some respect in such discussions. Maybe he is not an ideal NFL prospect based on his measurables, but to be downright douchey is not acceptable. If someone comments on how bad a particular poster is, people have a mental come apart. But that treatment is acceptable towards players? Damn. We can do better.AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:59 pmWe all know opinions are like.....well.....uh.....everyone has an opinion and predictions and we are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. All you have to do is look back at former BN posts to see that fact.catzz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:30 pm@BelligerentBobcat isn't wrong. And no one has been higher on Lamson than him, going back to August!BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 30, 2026 6:54 pmHe's not an NFL prospect. Maybe with further development he'll get a slight chance, but right now, he's not there. If you took offense to what I said, I apologize.
Here is one of my past posts. Yeah, I was pretty off on that one.
Here is one of Tomcats past posts. Well, he wasn't wrong, D'Amato did start, but not for the Cats.
Here is one of Belligerants past posts. Three of those other guys did make NFL rosters and two are still there.
The point is he is just stating an opinion and we shouldn't be upset about it, because he may just be wrong, just like we all are.
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I'm better and purer than you, so I might as well let you know it.. I have no idea if he'll get drafted, but I don't think it's douchy to voice your opinion. If you disagree, argue the point not the poster.
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